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    Post by Supernova on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:46 pm

    My mom's best friend died right after she came out of surgery for colon cancer and it's going on 6 years since she passed. Unfortunately that was only one of the many things wrong with her, I can't think of them all, but one thing my mother always talks about is how her friend wanted to lose weight. She was a big woman, not like these 300 pound people you see all the time, somewhere in the 200 range I think, and this is a woman who as a senior in high school had I think 14 inch waist, unbelievable. Anyway, about a year before she died, her doctors put her on a pill that, I can't think what the name of it is, it flushes all the sugar out of your body so you can eat more sugar but still lose weight. And she loved this idea because she ate ice cream every night and didn't want to give it up. Well, to flush the sugar out of her body it also had to flush out all the nutrients and everything else and so she had diarrhea every day for about a year, and it DID make her thinner, and then she got cancer, went in for her surgery, and died that night after they wheeled her out.

    Now, if this pill and its effects had any direct connection to what actually killed her, I don't know, but I just cannot for the life of me think of ANY food that would be worth taking a pill like that instead of just quit eating the food. As my mother pointed out, it's not like if it was a matter of take this pill or quit drinking water, or eating something vital, something you need to survive, luxury foods, comfort foods, you may like them but when it comes a choice between that and your health, I would think most people would rather have their health, than to be sick every single day just for the sake of eating more sugar.
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    Post by Shale on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:54 pm

    I do it the old fashioned way - and after the age of 40, your metabolism changes so you can't eat the stuff a 20-year-old eats. I used to eat cheddar cheese dipped in mayonaise, or half a large pizza or ice cream and all sorts of things that I no longer eat.

    It is ruf giving that up, but besides the outward signs of overweight are the inner problems of a high-fat diet, like cholesterol. So, no I wouldn't take the pill.




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    Post by Bluesmama on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:57 pm

    Though possible, I kinda' doubt that the pill contributed to her colon cancer. But I can't wondering about the condition of her heart. Because with chronic diarrhea you lose the essential electrolytes for your heart to perform correctly, and she would have needed potassium in prescription dosage.

    Never heard of it before. I would take the pill ONLY after years of positive monitoring, and it doesn't sound like enough people have taken it to warrant the risk.



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    Post by Nystyle709 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:13 pm



    I had a hard time following. I never heard of pill that flushes sugar out of your body. And if she was taking a pill that promised results like that, it was fraudulent and basically a quack. You cannot lose weight by a 'magic' pill. You cannot lose weight by eating sugar and not exercising.



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    Post by Alan Smithee on Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:23 pm

    "Would you take this pill?"

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    Post by wants2laugh on Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:47 am

    Alli prevents your body from absorbing fat, you and leak oils and fat from your butt to the point that one of my friend actually wore a depends adult diaper. The more junk you eat, the more oil... so it is supposed to be a way to train you what to eat... veggies/fruits will get you less oil oozing from your anus, and thus you would eat more to be comfortable.

    I dont bother with those things. I'm fat, but also very muscular. That is me. why change?



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    Post by Alan Smithee on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:39 pm

    LMAO! (At least I'm laughing, not leaking.)
    Alli Side Effects In Layman's Terms
    by Jeff Kay
    Alli is a new over-the-counter weight-loss pill which, predictably enough, has proven to be a massive best-seller from the moment it became available. The drug, manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline, reportedly works by blocking the absorption of excess fats by the body. And folks are waddling, not walking, to their local drug stores for a chance to get started on the Alli "program."

    As is the case with most drugs, Alli comes with a risk of certain side effects. Or, as they're known on the company website, treatment effects.

    A person is reportedly limited to 15 grams of fat per meal, and if they go over (or even if they don't), there's a significant chance they'll find themselves out behind a shopping center somewhere, crying and clutching a wad of horrifyingly soiled underwear, searching for a place to ditch it.

    As best as I can tell, anyway...

    Since a lot of this stuff is couched in language that is technically truthful, but very carefully worded, I've taken it upon myself to go through the list of side (treatment) effects and warnings, and translate it all into layman's terms.

    I'm no scientist or doctor, and don't pretend to have any special knowledge. I'm just a person who's fairly good with words and reading between the lines... The highlighted phrases below are direct quotes from the Alli website, with my translations in between.


    Undigested fat cannot be absorbed and passes through the body naturally. The excess fat is not harmful. In fact, you may recognize it in the toilet as something that looks like the oil on top of a pizza.

    Here the drug makers are trying to soothe the nerves of the skeptical fatty, by speaking their language. Pizza is something fatties understand, and a big part of the reason they’re interested in Alli to begin with. Pizza is good, pizza is reassuring… even when it’s flowing from your ass like molten lava.

    The website mentions seeing the undigested fat in a toilet, but that’s clearly a best case scenario. You might also see it on the tops of your shoes, across the hood of a car, or way up the shower curtain, near the loops.

    The fat passes out of your body, so you may have bowel changes, known as treatment effects.

    Bowel changes. Notice how they phrase that? It means stuff will be happening the likes of which you could never have imagined. It’ll be like a daily Dean Koontz novel inside your underwear.

    You may get:

    gas with oily spotting

    You’ll be farting Wesson oil straight through your Dockers…

    loose stools

    and having violent chipped beef explosions...

    more frequent stools that may be hard to control

    all the time, with a sphincter that can no longer be counted as a friend.

    Eating a low-fat diet lowers the chance of these bowel changes. Limit fat intake in your meals to an average of 15 grams.

    The McDonald’s Big Mac has 34 grams of fat, and the Burger King Whopper has 40. Eat either of these while taking Alli, and you’ll very likely be transformed into a diarrhea cannon.

    Learning how to manage treatment effects is an important part of being successful with alli. Here's how to take control:

    Start trimming fat from your diet now, even before you begin taking alli. Then pick a day to begin taking alli, such as a weekend day so you can stay close to home if you experience a treatment effect. Make the timing work for you. If you're getting ready to travel or attend a social event, hold off on starting with alli until the event is over

    Blowing liquid feces down a row of bridesmaids, for instance, could be viewed negatively in certain circles. Further, an unexpected bout of the power-squirts while riding “The Bullet” at the county fair might not ingratiate you with your friends. Or anyone on the fairway. Or the folks in the parking lot walking to their cars.

    While no one likes experiencing treatment effects, they might help you think twice about eating questionable fat content. If you think of it like that, alli can act like a security guard for your late-night cravings

    You see, when you think about it, shitting yourself is actually a positive.

    You can't "save fat grams" from lunch and "spend them" at dinner. Spread your daily fat gram allowance of 15 grams on average per meal over the whole day

    Cheating can lead to embarrassment, tears, and the introduction of a frantically constructed toilet paper crack-wedge in the bathroom of an Applebee's. It’s simply not worth it.

    You may feel an urgent need to go to the bathroom. Until you have a sense of any treatment effects, it's probably a smart idea to wear dark pants, and bring a change of clothes with you to work

    Until you get the hang of it, you should probably take along a rolling suitcase full of brown clothes everywhere you go, while taking Alli. Luckily, however, turd-colored clothing is in this season; turd is the new vomit.

    If co-workers ask about it, there is no shame in telling the truth. You might be surprised how understanding folks can be if you simply say, “I dress like this to conceal the poop that's constantly soaking through the seat of my pants.”

    You may not usually get gassy, but it's a possibility when you take alli. The bathroom is really the best place to go when that happens

    Showboating is not recommended.

    You can use a food journal to recognize what foods can lead to treatment effects. For example, writing down what you eat may help you learn that marinara sauce is a better option than Alfredo sauce

    In addition to a handcart full of extra pants designed to camouflage your anal leakage, it might also be a good idea to carry a schematic and information wheel, so you don't repeat past mistakes and have a treatment effect halfway up your back.

    I hope this information has proven to be valuable.




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    Post by Tony Marino on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:47 pm

    If I ever had to lose weight I would never take any pills of any kind, I would do it the way you are supposed to do it, diet and exercise.



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    Post by Shale on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:51 pm

    I'll just stay with my current plan to limit my fat intake without some fat blocker.

    Remember Olestra? It is a special fat that can't be absorbed by the body. So you get to enjoy greasy normal tasting potato chips.

    Those 'fat free' potato chips worked for a while for me until one day I ate too many on an empty stomach. Yellow oily stuff with gas resulted. Luckily it hit me at home where I spent a morning lubricating my porcelain (not really pretty). That was the end of the Olestra. Can you believe they want to put that in food products without mentioning it. I hope the FDA has someone who's had an experience like mine and says NO WAY!




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    Post by RedBedroom on Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:39 pm

    I steer clear of any diet pills.

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