Favorite saints

If you have ever followed religion, are there any biblical saints who are your favorites?

I yield the floor.

You're limiting it to Biblical saints? Anybody who came in the past 2000 years is disqualified eh?

Well, I guess that leaves Blessed Mother, John, and Moses, I guess, if we're picking "favorites."

Boondock?

I like St Louis. The Six Flags there is tight and that gateway arch thing was pretty amazing.

CeCe wrote:Boondock?

Have you seen the sequel? I haven't had the chance yet.

Alan Smithee wrote:

Have you seen the sequel? I haven't had the chance yet.

I have. Not as good as the first but I liked it.

Wilem Defoe stole that movie.

Alan Smithee wrote:Wilem Defoe stole that movie.

He did. He's an amazing talented actor.

I don't have any

St. Christopher, and I wear one whenever I travel.

St. Anthony.

St. Cosmas.

Mother Theresa.

Bluesmama wrote:St. Christopher, and I wear one whenever I travel.

St. Anthony.

St. Cosmas.

Mother Theresa.

Somebody with some actual answers.

I guess if we go outside of the Biblical parameters, I can add St. Patrick and St. Nicholas to the list. But I like all the saints.

I think Mother Theresa should be a saint. I don't know if they made her one yet, but she definitely should be.

Biblically speaking, anyone who believes in God is considered a saint--not just who the Catholic church appoints as such, according to their criteria.

Here's a few pages of reference to that in the Bible:

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search.php?word=saints&page=1&order=

^^^^The word can be used somewhat loosely. I would think the subject of this thread refers to the term in a more canonized or venerated sense.

Old Saint Nick.

Saint Anthony (I am named after him)
Saint Michael
Saint Theresa

Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^The word can be used somewhat loosely. I would think the subject of this thread refers to the term in a more canonized or venerated sense.

Now there's where a can of worms could open up--those of us who are not Catholic, yet are Bible-beliving Christians, could argue that there's no Biblical basis for the Catholic Church to create saints the way it does. That's being exlusionary to the Body of Christ and saying that only this group, or this or that dead person is worthy to be a saint because of some supposed miracle that happened in their name, when in fact, all who come to God/Jesus are worthy of being labeled a saint.

Sorry--if you take the Bible for what it says directly, and not "loosely", then a lot of Catholic practice is doctrinally incorrect. And I'm not bashing on Catholics, mind you, just saying that I don't agree with a lot of the rituals and rites of that particular religion/faith.

That said, based on the literal interpretation of the Scriptures as far as what they say about saints, then I feel it's an important point to mention. I think that all the Canonized saints do is to take the focus off of God by turning peoples' attention toward their works and not God's.

Hyacinth Girl wrote:

Now there's where a can of worms could open up--those of us who are not Catholic, yet are Bible-beliving Christians, could argue that there's no Biblical basis for the Catholic Church to create saints the way it does. That's being exlusionary to the Body of Christ and saying that only this group, or this or that dead person is worthy to be a saint because of some supposed miracle that happened in their name, when in fact, all who come to God/Jesus are worthy of being labeled a saint.

Sorry--if you take the Bible for what it says directly, and not "loosely", then a lot of Catholic practice is doctrinally incorrect. And I'm not bashing on Catholics, mind you, just saying that I don't agree with a lot of the rituals and rites of that particular religion/faith.

That said, based on the literal interpretation of the Scriptures as far as what they say about saints, then I feel it's an important point to mention. I think that all the Canonized saints do is to take the focus off of God by turning peoples' attention toward their works and not God's.

You might not want to open that can of worms. It already oozes with ignorance of what the Church actually teaches. So if people cannot even get what the Church teaches right, I hardly trust their interpretation of what the Bible says.

That is simply incorrect. The Catholic Church is 100% within Biblical confines, especially in it not limiting itself to what is said in the Bible. (PM me for more on this. ) But that is off topic of this thread, and it seems to me that few people are actually taking this topic seriously. Mocking it, and now you wanna turn it into a referendum on the Catholic Church.

And nope, the canonized saints do not take any attention away from God. If anything, they give him more attention. The problem with non-Catholic interpretation of Catholic practices is that they usually get it wrong. (I am so waiting for you-know-who to respond with another essay. )

And having said that, this is NOT the topic of this thread. I'd be happy to discuss this further with you in private, where it's not off-topic in a thread. Referendums on the Catholic Church are not on the topic of asking about your favorite saint.

Nystyle709 wrote:I think Mother Theresa should be a saint. I don't know if they made her one yet, but she definitely should be.

I think that in their lifetime they have to prove that they performed at least one miracle then they can be canonized a saint.

Forgiveness Man wrote:You might not want to open that can of worms. It already oozes with ignorance of what the Church actually teaches. So if people cannot even get what the Church teaches right, I hardly trust their interpretation of what the Bible says.

That is simply incorrect. The Catholic Church is 100% within Biblical confines, especially in it not limiting itself to what is said in the Bible. (PM me for more on this. ) But that is off topic of this thread, and it seems to me that few people are actually taking this topic seriously. Mocking it, and now you wanna turn it into a referendum on the Catholic Church.

And nope, the canonized saints do not take any attention away from God. If anything, they give him more attention. The problem with non-Catholic interpretation of Catholic practices is that they usually get it wrong. (I am so waiting for you-know-who to respond with another essay. )

And having said that, this is NOT the topic of this thread. I'd be happy to discuss this further with you in private, where it's not off-topic in a thread. Referendums on the Catholic Church are not on the topic of asking about your favorite saint.

First of all, I'm mocking nothing, so I don't even know how you deduced that.

Second, Jesus' words in John 14:6 says that no one shall come to the Father except through Me, so how does that make it doctrinally correct that the Catholic faith prays to Mary and all the other dead saints to intercede to God on their behalf? It says you go directly to Jesus/God, not worship and pay homage to another human being.

And third, where in Scripture is it stated the steps by which the Catholic church canonizes people into saints? I'd be interested to read that if you can point it out to me, because I sure can't find it anywhere. Seems to me that's "Of man" not "of God".

So no, I'm sticking on topic, since the topic is "saints" and most associate that with the Catholic church, but I'm merely presenting a broader definition of, based on what it actually says in the Bible about saints. Therefore, if Chris, Tony, Alan, CeCe and anyone else here were believers, then they too would be considered "saints", and I could say that any one of them would be a favorite saint of mine, in keeping with the title of this thread.

^^^^The mocking was directed at almost everyone else.

Nobody in the Church worships another human being. And since Jesus said nobody comes to the father except through me, than that would also mean that it's wrong to ask somebody to pray for you who IS alive? So are you telling me that if your family member was sick, you wouldn't want people to pray for you? You wouldn't ask them to? There's an inconsistency most who sing your song hold. (That's part one or rebuttal. There's more. But again, this isn't supposed to be a debate thread so we'll discuss it elsewhere) And again, already you show a lack of understand of just what Catholics do. So how it "seems to you" is already suspect seeing as you already mistake Catholic practices.

Where in Scripture does it say that every process needs to be explicitly stated in Scripture? Bible alone theology is contradictory cause it's unBiblical. (God also Biblically gave his Church the power to loose and bind. So it's not "of man.")

It is off topic. lol This isn't a debate thread. You seem to want to nitpick the usage of the word when it's clear that it's application is not describing every believer, in the context of this thread. lol It seems to be hijacking a "what's your favorite" topic that is clear in intent to nitpick your way into making a theological statement. lol

Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^The mocking was directed at almost everyone else.

Nobody in the Church worships another human being. And since Jesus said nobody comes to the father except through me, than that would also mean that it's wrong to ask somebody to pray for you who IS alive? So are you telling me that if your family member was sick, you wouldn't want people to pray for you? You wouldn't ask them to?

Asking someone to pray for you is far different than exalting them to God-like status or putting them on the same plane as Jesus, as are some of the Catholic saints. But if Scripture says you can and are to, go directly to God, then why on Earth would you make someone into a "saint" after some miracle they performed? People don't perform the miracles, God does through us, and that's part of where the doctrinal error is--"saints" are being seen as having god-like powers.

Forgiveness Man wrote:an inconsistency most who sing your song hold. (That's part one or rebuttal. There's more. But again, this isn't supposed to be a debate thread so we'll discuss it elsewhere) And again, already you show a lack of understand of just what Catholics do. So how it "seems to you" is already suspect seeing as you already mistake Catholic practices.

So we aren't supposed to give our opinion on things? Isn't that the point of posting in a forum? I've been around Catholics long enough to know that some, not all of their practices make me question the doctrinal validity. I sent my daughter to Catholic schools up until 8th grade, and I married into an Italian Catholic family, 21 years ago, so I think I've got a good understanding.

Forgiveness Man wrote:

Where in Scripture does it say that every process needs to be explicitly stated in Scripture? Bible alone theology is contradictory cause it's unBiblical. (God also Biblically gave his Church the power to loose and bind. So it's not "of man.")

Every process should be measured against Scripture, regardless of whether or not it's expressly stated. If the Bible is the word of God, and something seems to contradict that, then shouldn't it be questioned? And yes, binding and loosing is given to us as part of spiritual warfare through the Holy Spirit which dwells within us when we accept God.

Forgiveness Man wrote:

It is off topic. lol This isn't a debate thread. You seem to want to nitpick the usage of the word when it's clear that it's application is not describing every believer, in the context of this thread. lol It seems to be hijacking a "what's your favorite" topic that is clear in intent to nitpick your way into making a theological statement. lol

Again, "debate" and differing opinions and interpretations are part of what makes up a forum, and should be expected. As I stated before, the Biblical definition of "saint" is far broader than what the Catholic church sees it as, and given that, I'm simply stating that it's just another thing to keep in mind, and therefore, widens the range of "who your favorite saint" can be. You could say that Brad Pitt or Betty White are one of your favorite saints if they believe in God and you take the Bible for face-value.

I'm simply coming at it from a logical standpoint, but personally, I think you just don't like it when someone ruffles your feathers to the point where it can appear that you aren't necessarily the most-knowledgeable about all topics.