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    Post by Chris Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:03 am

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017081/Two-teenagers-branded-sex-offenders-life-horseplay-incident.html

    Two teenagers branded as sex offenders for life after sitting on other boys' faces with their bare buttocks as a prank
    By Daily Mail Reporter
    Last updated at 3:32 AM on 21st July 2011


    Two New Jersey teenagers face registering for life as sex offenders under Megan's Law for what their lawyers claim was horseplay.

    An appeals court agreed the boys, who were 14, engaged in sexual contact when they held down two 12-year-old boys in Somerset County in 2008 and placed their bare buttocks on their faces.

    The ruling means the boys would have to register under Megan's Law because the court said sexual contact applies to touching for the purpose of humiliation.

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    Tough decision: Judge Victor Ashrafi was one of the three New Jersey appeals court judges who ruled that two young teenagers must register as sex offenders under Megan's Law

    The judges wrote they were 'keenly aware' of the ruling's ramifications for the boys and for others.

    The judges sent both cases back to a lower court to consider whether one boy can withdraw his guilty plea and whether the other received effective counsel.

    In a decision handed down Monday, the three-judge panel acknowledged the severity of its decision, but said it was bound to uphold the law.

    'We are keenly aware that our decision may have profound lifelong ramifications for these two boys as well as others similarly situated,' Judge Jose Fuentes wrote.

    Judge Victor Ashrafi was another of the three New Jersey appeals court judges who ruled that two young teenagers must register as sex offenders.

    One of the boys, whose case went to trial, said he had sat on the faces of a pair of 12-year-old schoolmates with his bare buttocks in November 2008 'cause I thought it was funny and I was trying to get my friends to laugh,' he told a family court judge.

    The trial judge concluded the teenager intended to humiliate or degrade his victims and found him guilty of criminal sexual contact.

    The second teenager who was implicated pleaded guilty to criminal sexual contact, and received the same penalty.

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    Horseplay: A prank involving touching someone for the purpose of humiliation may be considered sexual contact

    The convictions were appealed, and the lawyers for the teenagers argued that their behaviour amounted to horseplay, which other appellate court panels had exempted from Megan’s Law.

    David Fassett, the lawyer for the boy who pleaded guilty, argued that the court should not take such a literal view of the law, nj.com reports.

    He said: 'I think the Appellate Division was simply offended by the conduct here and just couldn’t get past that issue.

    The appeal did not challenge the application of Megan’s Law to the 14-year-old youths since courts have already ruled the law applies to offenders as young as 13, but on the ground that the offence was not severe enough to carry a lifelong stigma.

    The panel, which also included Judges Victor Ashrafi and William Nugent, noted its constraints under the law.

    'Although we are not unsympathetic to the arguments criticising the application of the lifelong registration requirements in Megan’s Law to 14-year-old offenders, we are bound to uphold such application because that outcome is mandated by the Legislature,' the court said in its ruling.

    Nown that the judges have sent both cases back to a lower court it could mean that for the boys, who are now 16, there is still a possibility of having their convictions overturned.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Fri Jul 29, 2011 8:36 am

    Sexual predator may be a bit stiff but those kids do need a stiff penalty.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:06 am

    This shit needs to be overturned. This is getting ridiculous now. See what happens when one tragedy occurs and you start making all these special 'Megan's Law' and 'Caylee's Law' that apply to a broad spectum of crimes? Laws are already on the books that prevent crime and punish criminals for just about everything and then people wanna get extra with the shit.Who in their right mind thinks it's justified to give a FOURTEEN yr old a sex offender title for the rest of his life for something like this?
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    Post by Shale Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:12 am

    Nystyle709 wrote:This shit needs to be overturned. This is getting ridiculous now. See what happens when one tragedy occurs and you start making all these special 'Megan's Law' and 'Caylee's Law' that apply to a broad spectum of crimes? Laws are already on the books that prevent crime and punish criminals for just about everything and then people wanna get extra with the shit.Who in their right mind thinks it's justified to give a FOURTEEN yr old a sex offender title for the rest of his life for something like this?
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    Here's a precedent. Teens doing heinous crimes and were given life sentences have had their sentences reduced because it would have been such a long lifetime. blank stare @ you

    But, as a culture we are more anti sex than anti violence.
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    Post by CeCe Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:22 am

    Nystyle709 wrote:This shit needs to be overturned. This is getting ridiculous now. See what happens when one tragedy occurs and you start making all these special 'Megan's Law' and 'Caylee's Law' that apply to a broad spectum of crimes? Laws are already on the books that prevent crime and punish criminals for just about everything and then people wanna get extra with the shit.Who in their right mind thinks it's justified to give a FOURTEEN yr old a sex offender title for the rest of his life for something like this?

    co-signs The country is running amok with this shit. Remember the girl a few years back hit with the drug offense for giving her friend a fucking Midol? Now they want to punish these kids who were just being little dickheads for LIFE.
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    Post by Supernova Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:23 am

    I'm on the other side of this. This sounds like something my neighbor would've done, he was...I don't know if there are words to describe the mess he was. As a kid he had a rubber swimming suit supposedly so none of the boys could grab his crotch, but he did it to every other boy at the pool, especially the smaller ones, and he was always pulling stupid shit that he said was funny, but his victims were never inclined to agree.

    Now there's a long running theory that between the sexes, the males make up for most of the idiots, and to read about what these boys did, they don't help the argument any that's for damn sure. For some reason I highly doubt you will ever hear about girls doing something like this.

    One thing I did NOT see in the article was the two 12-year-olds who had it done to them coming forward and saying it WAS funny, that they enjoyed it. If the boys had done this to two 12-year-old girls, what would the verdict have been there, simple 'horseplay', or would THAT have qualified for sexual harrassment or whatever? So should they be sex offenders for life? No, but I wouldn't be above a judge ordering them to get 'I'm an idiot' tattooed on their foreheads, now THAT would be funny.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:43 am

    Supernova wrote:I'm on the other side of this. This sounds like something my neighbor would've done, he was...I don't know if there are words to describe the mess he was. As a kid he had a rubber swimming suit supposedly so none of the boys could grab his crotch, but he did it to every other boy at the pool, especially the smaller ones, and he was always pulling stupid shit that he said was funny, but his victims were never inclined to agree.

    Now there's a long running theory that between the sexes, the males make up for most of the idiots, and to read about what these boys did, they don't help the argument any that's for damn sure. For some reason I highly doubt you will ever hear about girls doing something like this.

    One thing I did NOT see in the article was the two 12-year-olds who had it done to them coming forward and saying it WAS funny, that they enjoyed it. If the boys had done this to two 12-year-old girls, what would the verdict have been there, simple 'horseplay', or would THAT have qualified for sexual harrassment or whatever? So should they be sex offenders for life? No, but I wouldn't be above a judge ordering them to get 'I'm an idiot' tattooed on their foreheads, now THAT would be funny.

    LOL, why would the other kid think it was funny? Of course they don't think it's funny. That doesn't change the fact of the matter is that they are KIDS that we are dealing with. Kids. Are you seriously going to punish someone for life for something stupid that they did as a child? You're pretty much supposed to do stupid shit as a kid. Your tattoo proposition is even more ridiculous. There is a reason why you have the different stages of life. If they would've did that to girls, I would feel the same way. Now....if these were adults sitting on the faces for 12 yr old boys....then my views would be completely different.
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    Post by wants2laugh Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:18 pm

    yeah kids are idiots who change and grow up. they are not going to be the same people in another 10 years, so why give them the same sentence of lifetime predator status?
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    Post by Supernova Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:36 pm

    wants2laugh wrote:yeah kids are idiots who change and grow up. they are not going to be the same people in another 10 years, so why give them the same sentence of lifetime predator status?


    Some do anyway. But in my neighbor's case, 10 years later he's pretty much the same screw up he always was, it's just HOW he's an idiot that's changed.
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    Post by Tony Marino Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:21 pm

    Give it a rest, this is stuff teenage boys do to one another! Baby killers get to go free but teenagers playing around and not hurting one another are criminals. Something is not quite right here.

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    Post by Supernova Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:25 pm

    Tony Marino wrote:Give it a rest, this is stuff teenage boys do to one another! Baby killers get to go free but teenagers playing around and not hurting one another are criminals. Something is not quite right here.



    Hmmm, another reason to be glad I was never a boy. If anybody would've ever tried that shit with me, I would've beat the hell out of him and seen to it he never sat down again.


    And like I said, I didn't see anything in the report saying that the 12 year olds found it funny, that's just their and their lawyers' words, if it was so harmless, why didn't the other two boys come to speak out in their defense?
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    Post by CatEyes10736 Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:10 pm

    If the boys whose faces were sat on filed a complaint, then just make the offenders pay a fine or do some kind of community service. Branding them as "sex offenders" is (pun) anal retentive and petty.
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    Post by Supernova Fri Jul 29, 2011 4:20 pm

    Yeah but still, the fact that they WERE branded sex offenders means somebody called the police about the matter and that somebody did NOT find it funny. And like I said, if these two 14 year old boys had done it to 12 year old girls, what would the verdict be then? Still just harmless fun, or would THAT qualify as sexual harrassment or misconduct or molestation?
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    Post by Shale Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:25 pm

    What they did was not funny. It was a stupid assault on another person and they should have received APPROPRIATE punishment. Like if they popped the kids in the face, they could have done some time in jail - but that would not follow them all their lives as a sexual offence.

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    Post by CeCe Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:05 pm

    They certainly deserve some consequences but there is no rational reasoning for labeling them as sex offenders. This is unfair & needs to be fixed. It's so wrong.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Fri Jul 29, 2011 7:44 pm

    I commented on this on the topic about the man who had to register as a sex offender because his now wife was underage when they first had sex. Keep in mind that in Jersey it's a manifestation of Megan's Law the intention of which is to protect children from actual predators. The law shouldn't be one size fits all.

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