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    Fundraisers/contributions at work?

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    Post by wants2laugh Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:41 am

    How do you feel about giving to various fundraisers and causes for people at work? I work in a large building where most of us have worked together for atleast 10 yrs, so we are family. We buy raffles for churches, sell beef n beer tickets, and go on casino bus trips together. When family members died, a person retires, or tragedy strikes in some way we all donate in a card. This is common place.

    Yesterday, someone was passing around a flier asking for contributions to help me with my house (because they didnt want to post it on the wall for me to find out), and one of the big bosses threatened to write her up for solicitation.

    Would you be offended if someone asked for a donation, or just not donate if you didnt want to?
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    Post by Cheaps Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:44 am

    wants2laugh wrote:Would you be offended if someone asked for a donation, or just not donate if you didnt want to?

    No, I wouldn't be offended, and I wouldn't mind donating, if I'm financially able to.
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    Post by wants2laugh Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:51 am

    what made me laugh most was that this supervisor who threatened my friend is the same big boss who ran out the door during the earthquake, leaving all the employees trapped inside because he never hit the evacuation button! idiot. people were running for the exits that were locked!
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    Post by Nystyle709 Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:00 am

    I usually contribute whatever I can....depending on what it is. Usually when people have raffles and fundraiser at my job for personal reasons, I contribute if I like them or not. Like I had this one co-worker who was a complete and nasty bitch, but was always having something going on for her son. Always asking people for money for him. Either he was selling candy, tickets, whatever. I never bought shit from him....just becuase of his mother. Yep. And I told her that. She knew better than to ask me for anything.
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    Post by Shale Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:01 pm

    wants2laugh wrote:... people were running for the exits that were locked!
    Locked exits should be against the law and some anonymous person should notify the fire inspector of that.

    I am very alert to that and have forced employers to put 'panic bars' on egress doors marked as exits. "Bodies stacked by the fire exit like cord wood" is not a pleasant news report but happens all too often.
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    Post by wants2laugh Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:28 pm

    Opa Shale wrote:
    Locked exits should be against the law and some anonymous person should notify the fire inspector of that.

    I am very alert to that and have forced employers to put 'panic bars' on egress doors marked as exits. "Bodies stacked by the fire exit like cord wood" is not a pleasant news report but happens all too often.

    I agree. For "security reasons" our building housing 1500 employees has 2 entrances, one for us, one for supervisors. During a fire drill, a panic button is hit which unlocks the surrounding doors so that employees can evacuate during an emergency. They never hit the button so the doors didnt unlock! jerks... ur right... maybe the fire inspector will get a call
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    Post by Tony Marino Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:31 pm

    I would contribute if it was for a good cause.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:50 pm

    wants2laugh wrote:

    I agree. For "security reasons" our building housing 1500 employees has 2 entrances, one for us, one for supervisors. During a fire drill, a panic button is hit which unlocks the surrounding doors so that employees can evacuate during an emergency. They never hit the button so the doors didnt unlock! jerks... ur right... maybe the fire inspector will get a call

    There shouldn't be any maybe about it! Access-controled egress doors are permited under recent building codes but it sounds like the supervisors have control over activating the employee exit? That's against code.

    To answer the question, I probably would make a donation.
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    Post by CeCe Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:54 pm

    Opa Shale wrote:
    Locked exits should be against the law and some anonymous person should notify the fire inspector of that.

    I am very alert to that and have forced employers to put 'panic bars' on egress doors marked as exits. "Bodies stacked by the fire exit like cord wood" is not a pleasant news report but happens all too often.

    wants2laugh wrote:I agree. For "security reasons" our building housing 1500 employees has 2 entrances, one for us, one for supervisors. During a fire drill, a panic button is hit which unlocks the surrounding doors so that employees can evacuate during an emergency. They never hit the button so the doors didnt unlock! jerks... ur right... maybe the fire inspector will get a call

    You really should!
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    Post by Alan Smithee Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:56 pm

    Opa Shale wrote:
    Locked exits should be against the law and some anonymous person should notify the fire inspector of that.

    I am very alert to that and have forced employers to put 'panic bars' on egress doors marked as exits. "Bodies stacked by the fire exit like cord wood" is not a pleasant news report but happens all too often.

    That's good practice but not always required by law.
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    Post by CeCe Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:06 pm

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    Fire at Chicken Processing Plant Kills 25 : Disaster: Witnesses say locked doors added to death toll at North Carolina facility that had never been inspected for safety; 49 workers hurt.
    September 04, 1991|PAUL TAYLOR | THE WASHINGTON POST

    Fire broke out near a 26-foot-long, deep-fat fryer fueled by natural gas at a chicken-processing plant in this rural community, killing at least 25 minimum-wage employees and injuring at least 49 others Tuesday morning, authorities said.

    Friends and relatives of victims at the Imperial Food Products plant said locked doors at the one-story brick and cinder-block building contributed to the death toll. Most of the victims suffered from smoke inhalation, not burns, fire officials reported.

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    Fire at Chicken Processing Plant Kills 25 : Disaster: Witnesses say locked doors added to death toll at North Carolina facility that had never been inspected for safety; 49 workers hurt.
    September 04, 1991|PAUL TAYLOR | THE WASHINGTON POST

    Fire broke out near a 26-foot-long, deep-fat fryer fueled by natural gas at a chicken-processing plant in this rural community, killing at least 25 minimum-wage employees and injuring at least 49 others Tuesday morning, authorities said.

    Friends and relatives of victims at the Imperial Food Products plant said locked doors at the one-story brick and cinder-block building contributed to the death toll. Most of the victims suffered from smoke inhalation, not burns, fire officials reporte



    "I don't see how people can lock doors in a plant where you know something like this can happen," said Thomas Brown, 25, whose cousin was flown to a hospital in Durham, about 100 miles north, to be treated for smoke inhalation.

    State safety officials had never inspected the 11-year-old plant, which makes chicken nuggets and marinated chicken breasts sold at fast-food restaurants and grocery stores, said Charles Jeffress, assistant commissioner of the North Carolina Department of Labor.

    "I'm sure that there are many others" that have not been inspected, Jeffress told the Associated Press. He said that the state does not have enough inspectors to reach every plant and that it never received a safety complaint about the Imperial Food plant.

    "I have heard about 10,000 allegations that doors were locked, but I cannot confirm whether any were locked," Hamlet Fire Chief David Fuller said. Many victims were found near doorways, he said, indicating that they may have been overcome by smoke.



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    Post by Alan Smithee Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:25 pm

    This tread is hijacked but building/fire codes have always been reactive. People have to die before changes are made. I mentioned before that doors have to swing out (under most circumstances). This is because of such tragedies as The Coconut Grove fire in 1942. W2L, you really should make a call! Just out of curiosity...you say there are 1,500 people in the building and just two exits? Are these at least pairs of doors? In other words, two three foot wide doors in one door frame at each exit?

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