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An X-rated/porno flick or a movie that graphically depicts people being murdered, what's more dangerous to a young pair of eyes?
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What's the more detrimental for a young child to see: sex or violence?
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What's the more detrimental for a young child to see: sex or violence?
by Chris Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:37 am
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by RobbieFTW Sun Jan 31, 2010 2:09 am
I dunno as someone who saw my 1st porn @ 11 yrs old and didn't turn into some kind of scary skeevy nympho perv, I think it's kinda messed up that seeing someone's guts get blown out is somehow less immoral than seeing people have sex. I mean in one case someone is being injured or murdered and in the other, someone is just. . .having sex. I wouldn't show either extreme to a child but if I were a parent I wouldn't be MORE angry at catching my kid with a dirty movie than I would if they were looking at something gory. In either situation I would stress that it was for grownups.
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by AtownPeep Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:22 am
Bloody, violent movies are fake and I think most kids get that. The sex in porn is real. I think the latter would be worse for a child to see.
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by JM130ELM Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:51 am
YOUNG children shouldn't exposed to neither but how a child reacts to either has a lot to do with the adults reaction. If I had a small child and a violent movie was playing, I'd casually shoo him out the room in a way that wouldn't set off any alarms. If however my kid is in the room when scene from a porno came on, I'd probably have bigger reaction to trying to keep him from seeing it which would only spark his curiosity. I would probably be less upset by my kid seeing the violence.
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by RedBedroom Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:34 pm
Chris wrote:An X-rated/porno flick or a movie that graphically depicts people being murdered, what's more dangerous to a young pair of eyes?
The porn would because I think that it would cause more feelings of confusion. Unfortunately, children are somewhat desensitized to violence in the movies. And as someone else said, that is not real.
Now, if this was a debate about porn vs. real footage of violence, (such as seeing someone being beaten due to a hate crime or something along the line of the Daniel Pearl video) I would say that porn would be less dangerous to a young pair of eyes.
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by Nhaiyel Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:57 pm
RedBedroom wrote:
The porn would because I think that it would cause more feelings of confusion. Unfortunately, children are somewhat desensitized to violence in the movies. And as someone else said, that is not real.
Now, if this was a debate about porn vs. real footage of violence, (such as seeing someone being beaten due to a hate crime or something along the line of the Daniel Pearl video) I would say that porn would be less dangerous to a young pair of eyes.
Agreed. I'd rather my child see an R-rated movie with phony staged violence over a porn. However, remember those "Banned From TV" videos that used to advertise on cable? Depicting uncensored footage of people being maimed and killed. Now yeah, if it came down between a child seeing that versus porn, then I'd rather he be exposed to the latter than the former.
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by Supernova Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:26 pm
Like everybody else says, the difference is violence in movies is fake, and we all know it, and we learn it from early ages. We certainly did anyway, all the time we'd see something in a movie and ask our parents 'is that real or is that fake?', somebody gets beat up and they're bloody, 'is that real?', and you learn it's makeup. And with the more graphic Blob movie that came out back in '88, when we were little kids we saw an ad for both versions on TV discussing that the newer blob, while very disgusting, you might have eaten it since a key ingredient is something used in milkshakes. We learned a lot of the tricks of the trades for movies early on, and my brother was always into the behind the scenes documentaries and stuff as to how the movies worked. Whereas with porn, that's real, so you have a world of difference.
Now, in regards to all the hooplah going on about Janet Jackson at the superbowl, I agree it's twisted we can show a guy's head being blown up but one boob is offensive, however, there's also a world of difference in a woman's breast being shown (you see those on famous statues and in paintings as well, and then it's called art), and some bleached, tanned and waxed bimbo spreading her legs and/or bending over for 20 guys each having a turn with her.
AND, think about this...violence is often necessary for movie plots, the stories. Take Highlander, it's a movie about people who live forever and cut off each other's heads...it has a sex scene in it...and it can survive, as it does on TV edits, without the sex scene, but if you were to take the violence out of the film, then the whole story falls apart. Sex is seldom ever necessary for a movie plot (unless it IS porn, but I digress), instead it's just a cheap, fast idea as to how to get people's attention, which in my opinion is usually signs of poor ingenuity on a movie maker's part.
Now, in regards to all the hooplah going on about Janet Jackson at the superbowl, I agree it's twisted we can show a guy's head being blown up but one boob is offensive, however, there's also a world of difference in a woman's breast being shown (you see those on famous statues and in paintings as well, and then it's called art), and some bleached, tanned and waxed bimbo spreading her legs and/or bending over for 20 guys each having a turn with her.
AND, think about this...violence is often necessary for movie plots, the stories. Take Highlander, it's a movie about people who live forever and cut off each other's heads...it has a sex scene in it...and it can survive, as it does on TV edits, without the sex scene, but if you were to take the violence out of the film, then the whole story falls apart. Sex is seldom ever necessary for a movie plot (unless it IS porn, but I digress), instead it's just a cheap, fast idea as to how to get people's attention, which in my opinion is usually signs of poor ingenuity on a movie maker's part.
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by Forgiveness Man Mon Aug 30, 2010 6:06 pm
I agree. Maybe little kids would be worse off with the violence(and likely not understand what the heck porn is), but the average kid in school age and above I think would definitely be worse off having seen porn. At least they'd know the violent movie is fake.AtownPeep wrote:Bloody, violent movies are fake and I think most kids get that. The sex in porn is real. I think the latter would be worse for a child to see.
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by TSJFan4Ever Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:46 pm
I wouldn't want my kid exposed to either. when I'm with my niece, I turn off shows like CSI, even though she's still to young to understand. Still, I'd rather the violence than the raunchy sex.
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by Jason B. Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:10 am
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The porn would because I think that it would cause more feelings of confusion. Unfortunately, children are somewhat desensitized to violence in the movies. And as someone else said, that is not real.
Now, if this was a debate about porn vs. real footage of violence, (such as seeing someone being beaten due to a hate crime or something along the line of the Daniel Pearl video) I would say that porn would be less dangerous to a young pair of eyes.
When it comes to "Hollywood" violence versus porn, then I would rather they see the violence. However if it's actual footage of real murder, real blood, real guts, etc., then I would say that's worse than porn.
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by Forgiveness Man Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:32 am
^^^^^But very little is real violence.
Another difference is that violence CAN have a legitimate purpose within a story. Porn is there just to arouse erotic thoughts and feelings. A story with violence can have a moral for a child. Porn will not. So clearly, porn would be worse.
Another difference is that violence CAN have a legitimate purpose within a story. Porn is there just to arouse erotic thoughts and feelings. A story with violence can have a moral for a child. Porn will not. So clearly, porn would be worse.
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by Alan Smithee Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:03 am
This is probably the first topic I’ve found that I don’t agree with the majority of opinions. While I don’t think a child should be exposed to either violence or porn I think over exposure to violence desensitizes kids to it. People have stated that, “Oh, they know it’s not real.” That may be so but I think it gives many kids a casual acceptance of violence. As I said, I don’t think any child should be exposed to either but what do you think is more likely to give a kid night mares, a woman with big boobs riding a guy reverse cowgirl style or some guy getting fed feet first into a wood chipper? If you say the woman with big boobs it’s probably because the kids already seen too much violence.
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by GrayWolf Sat Sep 11, 2010 7:05 pm
Depends on what you mean by "detrimental". Nobody wants to think about it but even young kids 10 and under can be sexually aroused. I think being exposed to sex can stir natural feelings in a young kid that he's nowhere near ready for. Violence tends to not have the same affect because most people aren't as inclined to it. I would rather my kid see a porn than live footage of real life graphic murder, but if the violence is staged then I'd rather he see that than a porn.
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by Supernova Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:15 pm
alan smithee wrote: or some guy getting fed feet first into a wood chipper?
And yet I gotta wonder how common is something like that in movies? Generally by violence there's shootings and stabbings and people getting their asses kicked and bones broken and some kind of explosion. Take the movie They Live, it's got a lot of violence, a lot of death, but I wouldn't call it an...overkill thing, maybe I need to watch it again but I don't remember there being a lot of blood, just a lot of aliens getting shot and two guys kicking each other's asses over a pair of sunglasses.
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by Alan Smithee Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:36 pm
I agree that's an extreme example but the point I was making was that even if the violence is limited to the ass kickings and broken bones, it still can still lead to a casual acceptance of violence. Not saying that will be the case for all kids and I'll repeat what I said in the first place. They shouldn't be allowed to see either.
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by Supernova Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:51 pm
alan smithee wrote:I agree that's an extreme example but the point I was making was that even if the violence is limited to the ass kickings and broken bones, it still can still lead to a casual acceptance of violence. Not saying that will be the case for all kids and I'll repeat what I said in the first place. They shouldn't be allowed to see either.
Well hell, couldn't watching the 3 Stooges be seen as leading to a casual acceptance of violence since people laugh at everybody getting their eyes gouged and beat over the head with hard objects?
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by Alan Smithee Sun Sep 12, 2010 1:11 pm
For kids? Maybe. I remember the Simpsons episode where they're visiting Bart's new hero, an Evel Knievel-like daredevil in the hospital and Dr. Hibbard says something like, "I won't subject you to the horrors of our Three Stooges ward." I'm not so sure that satire didn't have a small basis in fact. That some kid somewhere hit his brother in the head with a hammer expecting to hear that metal clang.
That being said, no, I don't think there should be a Three Stooges ban, etc. But you know what? I'm just going to leave it that I don't agree with the mainstream opinion. I still can't help wondering though if the Columbine massacre would have happened if those two dickheads had spent more time jerking off to porn and less time playing Doom. Not saying that was the only reason by any stretch but still. It couldn't have helped.
That being said, no, I don't think there should be a Three Stooges ban, etc. But you know what? I'm just going to leave it that I don't agree with the mainstream opinion. I still can't help wondering though if the Columbine massacre would have happened if those two dickheads had spent more time jerking off to porn and less time playing Doom. Not saying that was the only reason by any stretch but still. It couldn't have helped.
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by Forgiveness Man Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:35 pm
And seeing porn can't lead to a casual acceptance of sex? We've seen what becomes of such people.alan smithee wrote:I agree that's an extreme example but the point I was making was that even if the violence is limited to the ass kickings and broken bones, it still can still lead to a casual acceptance of violence. Not saying that will be the case for all kids and I'll repeat what I said in the first place. They shouldn't be allowed to see either.
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by Alan Smithee Sun Sep 12, 2010 6:42 pm
And seeing porn can't lead to a casual acceptance of sex? We've seen what becomes of such people.
And that's what specifically? Situations like this:
Little Johnny came running into the house and asked, "Mommy, can little girls have babies?"
"No," said his mom, "of course not."
Little Johnny then ran back outside and his mom heard him yell to his friends, "It's okay, we can play that game again!" :biggrin:
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by Forgiveness Man Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:20 pm
That's a fairly casual example of what I was thinking, at least in comparison to the wood chipper.alan smithee wrote:
And that's what specifically? Situations like this:
Little Johnny came running into the house and asked, "Mommy, can little girls have babies?"
"No," said his mom, "of course not."
Little Johnny then ran back outside and his mom heard him yell to his friends, "It's okay, we can play that game again!" :biggrin:
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by femme fatale Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:54 am
If anything the violence is more "detrimental" while the sex would be more "innopropriate."
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by Impact Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:40 am
I'd rather they see violence over sex. Plus it's easier to explain to a kid that what they just saw was Hollywood phoniness. I can't explain to my six year old why some guy on TV just had his head on the naked woman's crotch area.
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by Shale Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:03 am
alan smithee wrote:This is probably the first topic I’ve found that I don’t agree with the majority of opinions. While I don’t think a child should be exposed to either violence or porn ...
Yeah, I was getting rather discouraged with the majority opinions here as well. Shows a certain sex-negativity and too casual acceptance that kids are OK with watching staged violence.
Also, there is no clear definition of "child" which by law goes to 17 as far as movie ratings. I wouldn't want pre-pubescent children watching hard-core porn, or ultra violent death and dismemberment. Neither is appropriate for young children.
However, I have no problem with pubescent children watching sexual themes. I was curious at that age and whether parents admit it or not, their little hairy children are sexual beings, even if only in their minds (and fingers).
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by Kral Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:12 am
I wouldn't want my kids to sit and watch either but I'm leaning towards violence being worst only because it's more "accepted" so its easier for everyone kids included to be jaded by it. I wouldn't be thrilled over my child seeing sex but at least no one is being abused or killed. Just let the kids know that it's adult activity and not something for them right now. Sort of like alcohol. Even if we don't allow kids to taste it we don't shield them from seeing it.
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by TSJFan4Ever Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:40 am
Yeah - it does depend on the age and how graphic it is. I was thinking of this question with younger children in mind - 10 and under or so. I was also thinking porn vs. something like CSI and was leaning toward CSI but it really does depend on the age and the level. I wasn't thinking horror films with people being chopped up, but more along the lines of the cop/investigative type shows.
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