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    If your young teenage son was involved with a grown woman.

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    Post by Supernova Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:14 am

    wants2laugh wrote:


    Either way the woman gets stuck raising the kid herself. Let's face it, if an adult man WANTED a baby, he would have gotten with an adult woman, so he would disappear. If a 14yr old boy impregnates an adult woman (who obviously has mental problems), the woman would be the one raising the child---as i do not believe that a 14yr old would be going out to support the baby.

    So the responses on this board just prove that there is still a chauvinist double standard out there---- it AMAZES me! For a group of people who are supposed to be so progressive and forward thinking... that they would actually think differently between the 14yr old's sex---just amazing.

    I remember hearing about this one boy, 15 and he married a 40 year old woman, IN THIS COUNTRY, you've got to wonder what the hell his parents were thinking, or the judge or whoever the hell signed off on that one.
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    Post by wants2laugh Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:31 am

    Mary Kay Letourneau was 35 and the boy was 13. she had 2 kids with him, even between jail sentences. When he was 21, he filed a motion to dismiss the no contact order that was part of her release. They got married when he was 22.

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    Post by Impact Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:08 am

    If my 14 year old son was shagging a 30 year old woman, I would find it upsetting and I'd put my foot down about it not continuing...but, truthfully, I wouldn't be as dagger mad about it as I would if it was my 14 year old daughter with a 30 year old man. Teenage girls tend to have sex when the guy they're in love with convinces them that the feeling is mutual and that their love can be that much greater once they seal the deal. And a 30 year old man could easily manipulate a teenage girl into thinking that they're in love just to get sex out of them. Teenage boys can be flaky and naive about love and manipulated by older women too, but it's doubtful that she had to coax him into sleeping with her. Both statutory rape scenarios are unacceptable, but a boy with a woman is just a little less appalling.
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    Post by tmontyb Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:18 am

    Just want to state that I agree with CaptainBryce also, plus been there done that already. I found out when my son was 16 he was boinking a 28 year old woman. There are two reasons I did not do anything about it. First reason, there was NOTHING I could really do about it. There was nothing to stop him from doing it with someone else. The other reason was when I was 15 I had a little affair with someone older than me. I had fun and it did not destroy my mental health. Plus,it would have made me a hypocrite.

    I don't not advocate sex between adults and persons under 18, but I personally believe these things have to be looked at on a case by case basis.
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    Post by Supernova Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:02 am

    Impact wrote:If my 14 year old son was shagging a 30 year old woman, I would find it upsetting and I'd put my foot down about it not continuing...but, truthfully, I wouldn't be as dagger mad about it as I would if it was my 14 year old daughter with a 30 year old man. Teenage girls tend to have sex when the guy they're in love with convinces them that the feeling is mutual and that their love can be that much greater once they seal the deal. And a 30 year old man could easily manipulate a teenage girl into thinking that they're in love just to get sex out of them. Teenage boys can be flaky and naive about love and manipulated by older women too, but it's doubtful that she had to coax him into sleeping with her. Both statutory rape scenarios are unacceptable, but a boy with a woman is just a little less appalling.

    And what about cases where girls don't have to be coaxed into sleeping with men old enough to be their fathers? Such girls DO exist hard as that might be to believe, they're not all poor innocent naive little damsels if we're going to get into matters of 'regardless of the statutory rape laws'.
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    Post by RedBedroom Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:24 pm

    I have known/know several young teen boys. I can't imagine what frame of mind a woman would be in to engage in sex with such a young boy. There are not healthy reasons for this in my opinion.

    Fourteen is way too young for a boy to be with an adult woman, even if the woman is as young as 18. At 14, boys are too immature to fully comprehend all the implications coming along with sex and if a boy is screwing some adult woman, he in no way can trust he won't have a 14 year old himself in 14 years.

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    Post by femme fatale Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:54 pm

    LOL@all the guys in this thread admitting that it wouldn't bother them (as much) if their sons went carrying on with adult women but would blow their tops if it was the other way around with their daughters. I don't know if I should admire the honesty or be put off by the hypocrisy. NO 14 year old boy or girl is ready for sex and ANY adult man or woman who messes around with one is taking advantage and being abusive. There's no way around that. Doesn't matter how stiff a 14 year old boys dingaling gets or how much he might like enjoy a 25 year old woman. It ain't healthy and she's a predator.
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    Post by Supernova Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:07 pm

    femme fatale wrote:LOL@all the guys in this thread admitting that it wouldn't bother them (as much) if their sons went carrying on with adult women but would blow their tops if it was the other way around with their daughters. I don't know if I should admire the honesty or be put off by the hypocrisy. NO 14 year old boy or girl is ready for sex and ANY adult man or woman who messes around with one is taking advantage and being abusive. There's no way around that. Doesn't matter how stiff a 14 year old boys dingaling gets or how much he might like enjoy a 25 year old woman. It ain't healthy and she's a predator.


    And besides, hormones and erections are a poor excuse to justify it because they all have hands. And, looking at history, Indian girls were encouraged to be promiscuous once they came of age but the boys weren't. And since people want to use the 'it's always happened' excuse, that means they should be pushing their daughters for it and keeping the boys back.
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    Post by Shale Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:13 pm

    femme fatale wrote:... NO 14 year old boy or girl is ready for sex and ANY adult man or woman who messes around with one is taking advantage and being abusive. There's no way around that...

    Again, with these absolutes!

    NO 14-year-old is ready for sex?

    So, you discount that there can be an exception - that some 14 year olds might be ready for sex?

    ANY adult who messes around with one is taking advantage or being abusive?

    OK, I already told the other ABSOLUTIST that my momma was banging a 23-year-old guy when she was 14. Fact is, she set it up to escape from a bad homelife and my poor drunk dad got on the train thinking he was going to be travelling from St. Louis to Mississippi with a grown woman. About Memphis he discovered that he had broken Federal law by transporting a minor. As soon as they got to MS, they got married. I came into the pic about 11 months later - so she may not have been fucking him before the official shotgun wedding.

    So, YES my momma was ready for sex at 14 and NO my 23-year-old dad was not taking advantage of her or being abusive.
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    Post by RedBedroom Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:23 pm

    Shale wrote:

    Again, with these absolutes!

    NO 14-year-old is ready for sex?

    So, you discount that there can be an exception - that some 14 year olds might be ready for sex?

    ANY adult who messes around with one is taking advantage or being abusive?

    OK, I already told the other ABSOLUTIST that my momma was banging a 23-year-old guy when she was 14. Fact is, she set it up to escape from a bad homelife and my poor drunk dad got on the train thinking he was going to be travelling from St. Louis to Mississippi with a grown woman. About Memphis he discovered that he had broken Federal law by transporting a minor. As soon as they got to MS, they got married. I came into the pic about 11 months later - so she may not have been fucking him before the official shotgun wedding.

    So, YES my momma was ready for sex at 14 and NO my 23-year-old dad was not taking advantage of her or being abusive.

    The desire to escape a bad home life does not equate to being ready to begin a sexual relationship. I am not trying to dismiss or discount your parent's relationship. That said, you haven't said anything to indicate their pairing began as a great love affair by two people ready to begin a family together.

    Of course there are always exceptions to the rule when it comes to anything. There are 14 year olds enrolled in college classes. Does that mean that the average 14 year old can flourish in a college setting? No. And just because there are some 14 year olds who find an older mate and stay with them for years does not mean that is right or appropriate for the majority of 14 year olds. That is the point I think most speaking against this are trying to make.
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    Post by Supernova Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:30 pm

    RedBedroom wrote:

    The desire to escape a bad home life does not equate to being ready to begin a sexual relationship. I am not trying to dismiss or discount your parent's relationship. That said, you haven't said anything to indicate their pairing began as a great love affair by two people ready to begin a family together.

    Of course there are always exceptions to the rule when it comes to anything. There are 14 year olds enrolled in college classes. Does that mean that the average 14 year old can flourish in a college setting? No. And just because there are some 14 year olds who find an older mate and stay with them for years does not mean that is right or appropriate for the majority of 14 year olds. That is the point I think most speaking against this are trying to make.


    Well now see Shale says that was his MOTHER at 14 years old, and all these other guys are saying it's okay for their sons but not their daughters because THEN it's bad, it's threatening, their daughters are too vulnerable and naive. Have they asked them?
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    Post by wants2laugh Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:18 pm

    As the other ABSOLUTIST on the board, I agree with Red, wanting to escape a bad family life and running off with your "drunk" father does not sound like a good defense to the argument. What you are saying is that she was in a mental state to escape one situation that was so bad, that she might not have understood the new situation. And by your own description, your father was too "drunk" to know it was illegal? so he was not really thinking or prepared either.

    Someone else said what could they do? what if their son did it again? and he did the same, so why be a hypocrite----Here are the answers. You call the police, you call the police on every adult woman he is with---and he will learn you mean business, and the hypocrite part is ridiculous. We have all done things that we would not allow our children to do... if you did LSD in the past, would you allow your child to?? if you had stolen a car as a teen, would you think it was alright for your child? its the old "if your friends jumped off a bridge would you do it".

    i just can't believe i am reading some of what i am... and one again... NO 14 yr old is ready. Readiness comes from wisdom and experience... you do not have life experience at 14. They are not thinking of STD's and pregnancy, usually even if they are, they are in denial that these things can affect them.
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    Post by Supernova Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:23 pm

    Yeah you know if this was 500 years ago when you died at 30 and needed to have 10 kids because half of them won't survive, then starting at 14 would be understandable, but it's not, we don't and they don't. So try again.
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    Post by wants2laugh Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:38 pm

    It isnt even a matter of whether or not it happens... of course it happens.... if anyone has ever seen Coal Miner's Daughter, then you know loretta lynn got married at 13 and pregnant right away. My own grandmother got married at 15 and had a baby at 16. Her husband was an old man compared to her, and wound up cheating on her with someone his own age. He had wanted someone to clean his house, cook his meals, and give him sex. When he wanted a real relationship he looked elsewhere, leaving my grandmother worse off when he found her, cause now she had a baby to care for.

    The thing is.... these are not the best situations for our CHILDREN to be involved. So why not discourage, and prevent it?
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    Post by Supernova Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:56 pm

    wants2laugh wrote:It isnt even a matter of whether or not it happens... of course it happens.... if anyone has ever seen Coal Miner's Daughter, then you know loretta lynn got married at 13 and pregnant right away. My own grandmother got married at 15 and had a baby at 16. Her husband was an old man compared to her, and wound up cheating on her with someone his own age. He had wanted someone to clean his house, cook his meals, and give him sex. When he wanted a real relationship he looked elsewhere, leaving my grandmother worse off when he found her, cause now she had a baby to care for.

    The thing is.... these are not the best situations for our CHILDREN to be involved. So why not discourage, and prevent it?

    Yeah, 80 years ago this was the norm but let's face it a HELL of a lot HAS changed since then.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:29 pm

    Chris wrote:Would you be as quick to prosecute a grown woman whom you discovered your fourteen year old son was having an affair with as you would if it was a grown man with your daughter?

    Yep.
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    Post by Impact Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:29 pm

    Supernova wrote:
    And what about cases where girls don't have to be coaxed into sleeping with men old enough to be their fathers? Such girls DO exist hard as that might be to believe, they're not all poor innocent naive little damsels if we're going to get into matters of 'regardless of the statutory rape laws'.

    I was speaking in general. The average teenage girl isn't a cougar.
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    Post by Suzi Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:31 am

    I have to say at 14 my son was still a little boy, he didn't hit 5 foot until he was nearly 16 years old. Then he grew a foot in one year.Eventually topped out at 6'4". But if some woman had tried to have sex with him I would have killed her the same as I would have a man trying to have sex with my 14 year old girls who actually looked much older than he did.
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    Post by Kral Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:25 am

    I would definitely have a problem with it and would file charges against her. I'd also be ready to ship my son off to Siberia for it too.
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    Post by Supernova Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:59 am

    Suzi wrote:I have to say at 14 my son was still a little boy, he didn't hit 5 foot until he was nearly 16 years old. Then he grew a foot in one year.Eventually topped out at 6'4". But if some woman had tried to have sex with him I would have killed her the same as I would have a man trying to have sex with my 14 year old girls who actually looked much older than he did.

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    Post by captainbryce Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:20 pm

    RedBedroom wrote:Fourteen is way too young for a boy to be with an adult woman, even if the woman is as young as 18. At 14, boys are too immature to fully comprehend all the implications coming along with sex and if a boy is screwing some adult woman, he in no way can trust he won't have a 14 year old himself in 14 years.
    And how does that scenario change when the 14 year old boy is screwing his 14 year old girlfriend instead? What difference does the age of the female matter if THAT is your primary concern?
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    Post by captainbryce Sun Jan 29, 2012 1:23 pm

    Suzi wrote:I have to say at 14 my son was still a little boy, he didn't hit 5 foot until he was nearly 16 years old. Then he grew a foot in one year.Eventually topped out at 6'4". But if some woman had tried to have sex with him I would have killed her the same as I would have a man trying to have sex with my 14 year old girls who actually looked much older than he did.
    You know what I think...I think WOMEN are emotionally attached to their sons (especially when they still look at them like little boys) and it is that emotional attachment that compels the need to seek revenge against the woman who steals him away. I think men don't care as much about this as women do because men recognize that every 14 year old boys wants to have sex with a grown woman, just like he did when he was 14.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:24 pm

    captainbryce wrote:You know what I think...I think WOMEN are emotionally attached to their sons (especially when they still look at them like little boys) and it is that emotional attachment that compels the need to seek revenge against the woman who steals him away. I think men don't care as much about this as women do because men recognize that every 14 year old boys wants to have sex with a grown woman, just like he did when he was 14.

    Every one does? Every man did? For real?
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    Post by captainbryce Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:58 pm

    Nystyle709 wrote:Every one does? Every man did? For real?
    No, not for real because I don't see the word "every" in my post. It's a generlization - meaning "generally speaking" and it seems to be backed up by the responses on this thread. Everyone who would "prosecute" is a woman, and everyone who wouldn't is a man. Just sayin... big grin
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    Post by Nystyle709 Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:09 pm

    captainbryce wrote:No, not for real because I don't see the word "every" in my post.

    You know what I think...I think WOMEN are emotionally attached to their
    sons (especially when they still look at them like little boys) and it
    is that emotional attachment that compels the need to seek revenge
    against the woman who steals him away. I think men don't care as much
    about this as women do because men recognize that every 14 year old boys
    wants to have sex with a grown woman, just like he did when he was 14.


    It's a generlization - meaning "generally speaking" and it seems to be backed up by the responses on this thread. Everyone who would "prosecute" is a woman, and everyone who wouldn't is a man. Just sayin... If your young teenage son was involved with a grown woman. - Page 2 273237

    Hmm. But when I made the generalization about straight women and speedos, apparently that wasn't the thing to do. Mmkay. But ya'll carry on though. I was just making an observation.
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