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Will Téa be killed off, or will Dani succeed in finding this miracle cure?
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I'm almost tempted to believe in Dani's dedication.
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I've been REALLY frustrated with how quickly and apparently offscreen Todd accepted Tea's case was hopeless and there's no doc or cure for her. That is so out of character for him. I get Tea doesn't want him to raise her hopes or fight with Greg as it only hurts her.JB wrote: I'm almost tempted to believe in Dani's dedication.
BUT I figured we'd see him behind her back on phone yelling at docs or offering HUGE bribes to research hospitals just to find some treatment.
RC surprised me by giving THAT Toddian obsessive, dedicated, refuse to give up attitude, instead to his daughter. That exit line you can go to HELL was classic Todd and I cheered her that's right Greg don't tell to give up!!!
I loved Dani proclaiming finally with pride you're right I AM my father's daughter and he'll spend millions to track down any hope of a cure.
I loved the fierceness and fire in Dani and wish we'd see more of that in Tea who I fear accepted her fate far too easily. I expected her to RAIL much louder and harder.
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TPTB made an insulting and stupid mistake choosing a cancer that has no cure. If they wanted to pull out a last minute cure, they should have chosen a kind that wasn't terminal. I'm having a hard time with this storyline for that very matter. I'm sure they'll pull out a miracle cure in the end. I find storylines like this really insulting, esp. to those who have lost loved ones to cancer, particularly this kind. GH made a total mockery of cancer when they had Nik's magic snot cure Emily when he woke her up form her coma with a kiss and they basically said that love could cure cancer. What an insult to all of the people who love lost loved ones, as if their love wasn't enough to cure a loved one, but Num's lust was. It was a huge insult and I'm starting to feel the same way with this storyline. Had TPTB chosen a kind of cancer in which they could pull out a cure in the end, however slim, it would be one thing. They could still have all of the angst and drama and then have the miracle cure come along, but they chose to give Téa a kind of cancer that has no cure, so it's lost some of the power for me because I know it'll be some fake cure that saves her in the end.
The acting is great, but I'm just not happy with this storyline and how it's playing out. Other soaps have done amazing cancer storylines in the past, with lots of angst and emotion, but I'm having a hard time with this one because I know that in the end, some flaky cure will be pulled out of a hat - a cure that just doesn't' exist.
The acting is great, but I'm just not happy with this storyline and how it's playing out. Other soaps have done amazing cancer storylines in the past, with lots of angst and emotion, but I'm having a hard time with this one because I know that in the end, some flaky cure will be pulled out of a hat - a cure that just doesn't' exist.
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I agree that they should have picked an ailment that had the potential to go into remission. Téa being told that she's terminal and that there's no hope, and then suddenly being cured, is a bit insulting to millions of cancer-sufferers and/or the loved ones they left behind. This s/l was just a plot point to a) bond Todd and Dani and/or b) kill of Téa, if they needed to. Much as I can appreciate the tenderness of it, the premise is all wrong
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I want something to happen to save her but I want Dani to adjust her attitude.
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Hey TSJFan4Ever,
I am sorry the story is upsetting you and can understand as cancer has hit my family hard.
However, according to the National Brain Tumor Society, there are experimental treatments going even for Stage IV patients that can and do succeed. The success rate is still low percentage but remission IS possible option in real life cases of glioblastoma. This is the org we TnTers donated $500 to and they gave me a ton of info which was sent in packet to OLTL too.
IF show is smart they will follow the pattern they did with Matthew's paralysis. An expert with a dangerous medical procedure was found, and then it became a question of RISK. In Tea's case, she has nothing left to lose by trying radical experimental treatments.
Even Greg said there was tiny chance radiation shrinks tumor.
I am sorry the story is upsetting you and can understand as cancer has hit my family hard.
However, according to the National Brain Tumor Society, there are experimental treatments going even for Stage IV patients that can and do succeed. The success rate is still low percentage but remission IS possible option in real life cases of glioblastoma. This is the org we TnTers donated $500 to and they gave me a ton of info which was sent in packet to OLTL too.
IF show is smart they will follow the pattern they did with Matthew's paralysis. An expert with a dangerous medical procedure was found, and then it became a question of RISK. In Tea's case, she has nothing left to lose by trying radical experimental treatments.
Even Greg said there was tiny chance radiation shrinks tumor.
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I guess I just don't have enough faith in TPTB to do this story justice. I'm sure it'll go like Emily's miracle cure from breast cancer - a snotty kiss cures her cancer and awakens her from a coma? "Twue wuv" cures all? Shane's cancer storyline starred a bag of blood in the lead role - another mockery. It's good to know that there is some hope, however slim, but I just don't think TPTB will do this story right. I'm sure they'll screw it up the way they always do.
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Agreed Emily and Shane stories were horribly written slop.TSJFan4Ever wrote:I guess I just don't have enough faith in TPTB to do this story justice. I'm sure it'll go like Emily's miracle cure from breast cancer - a snotty kiss cures her cancer and awakens her from a coma? "Twue wuv" cures all? Shane's cancer storyline starred a bag of blood in the lead role - another mockery. It's good to know that there is some hope, however slim, but I just don't think TPTB will do this story right. I'm sure they'll screw it up the way they always do.
However, Matthew's paralysis and surgery story was so much better explored. The real risks and the precision expertise required. As much as I knew Greg would swoop in as a savior I also felt it was good to note it's not just the procedure that's important but the experience of doing it multiple times. It was that combo that swayed the judge and I felt it made more believable story actually.
Anyhoo, my expectations are low as still not even convinced my Tea survives this and in the end this is the same soap that has time travel and other crazy plots so lack of realism isn't going to get my panties too much in a twist I admit hat.
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The Way To Save Tea In This Storyine
Is that Todd is still in a coma from his beating from Cole.
He hasn't wroken up yet and this is his one big nightmare coming true for him. Or he wroke up in alter Llandview.
Everything else with Eli, Natalie, is happening in the real Landview and were watching two different Landviews happening at the same time.
And as far fetch this would be this is the only way Tea can be saved other wise forget it.
No cures or nothing can save Tea from this type of Tumor.
By them writing this storyline it will earn OLTL, RC and FV their Emmy nomanations that am sure their going after with this storyline And for Flo and Kassie to get their nomanations since Trevor's out of the Emmy's all together.
Plus this will keep Tea alive and well in real Llanview and on the show. This is the only explanation that will keep her on the show that would make sense.
Or the oldest plot trick is used. Eli hired some actress to play Tea while him and Ross have the real Tea hidden some where. And this person is playing Tea who is really going to die and it's her record and not Teas and they switched the records to make it look like Teas such as dna, blood etc.. And Eli and Ross set this all up so Ross can get Dani back.
So while we think Tea has died. The real Tea is being held against her will by them. That plot twist could work too. And that would explain the no cure and Tea only having two weeks to live. Becuase she's not Tea but some one posing as Tea.
And the show wins all around. Flo fans have their Flo and Tea. Their has to be a twist some where in here in order for Tea to live without some far out cure for this type of brian tumor. Especially after being told she has stage 4 brain tumor death is the only ending to this.
No way around it.
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He hasn't wroken up yet and this is his one big nightmare coming true for him. Or he wroke up in alter Llandview.
Everything else with Eli, Natalie, is happening in the real Landview and were watching two different Landviews happening at the same time.
And as far fetch this would be this is the only way Tea can be saved other wise forget it.
No cures or nothing can save Tea from this type of Tumor.
By them writing this storyline it will earn OLTL, RC and FV their Emmy nomanations that am sure their going after with this storyline And for Flo and Kassie to get their nomanations since Trevor's out of the Emmy's all together.
Plus this will keep Tea alive and well in real Llanview and on the show. This is the only explanation that will keep her on the show that would make sense.
Or the oldest plot trick is used. Eli hired some actress to play Tea while him and Ross have the real Tea hidden some where. And this person is playing Tea who is really going to die and it's her record and not Teas and they switched the records to make it look like Teas such as dna, blood etc.. And Eli and Ross set this all up so Ross can get Dani back.
So while we think Tea has died. The real Tea is being held against her will by them. That plot twist could work too. And that would explain the no cure and Tea only having two weeks to live. Becuase she's not Tea but some one posing as Tea.
And the show wins all around. Flo fans have their Flo and Tea. Their has to be a twist some where in here in order for Tea to live without some far out cure for this type of brian tumor. Especially after being told she has stage 4 brain tumor death is the only ending to this.
No way around it.
JMO
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Hmm, actually from National Brain Tumor Society, there are real life cases of Stage 4 glioblastoma surviving for years. Death is not the only sentence, just the most likely.trevorrules2 wrote:Their has to be a twist some where in here in order for Tea to live without some far out cure for this type of brian tumor. Especially after being told she has stage 4 brain tumor death is the only ending to this.
No way around it.
JMO
They don't even need to write some crazy fake Tea or fake tumor plot, but try the new viral injection treatment just read about. It's got a low success rate still but hey 10% chance is better than 0%.
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Hmm, actually from National Brain Tumor Society, there are real life cases of Stage 4 glioblastoma surviving for years. Death is not the only sentence, just the most likely.
They don't even need to write some crazy fake Tea or fake tumor plot, but try the new viral injection treatment just read about. It's got a low success rate still but hey 10% chance is better than 0%.
Do you honestly want Flo on this show with a brian tumor constantly fighting this horrible cancer from now on?
Storylines need a beginning, middle and end. And the storylines are better when the character is in full health. It will be really tiresome watching them dragging out this tumor storyline forever.
Do you want to keep watching Flo playing Tea sick and weak all then time or in comas (I know this one is coming with her). I read some of those reports. I also read where some are living but not really living. Some of those living on these chances are in homes because their not in full function of their lives anymore.
Honestly do you really want to see you'll favorite actress and charcter weak all the time. While Blair will be strong taking care of her all the time. While Blair will be strong woman and Tea weak. Because believe me that will be the way RC will write this tumor storyline constsantly. To where fans will be sick of it.
Tea strong and vial I think would be more interesting to you. Than sick and weak all the time because of this illness.
Because if they want to keep this storyline realistic that's the only way they can write it.
Listen I know you'll more a Tea fan more than a Trevor/Todd fan. But being am Trevor/Todd fan I want to see Trevor/Todd having some kind storyline for him before his contract is up next April. And not attacted to this Tea tumor storyline until he leaves and holding her hand constantly while she's sick all the time. I want something for him if he leaves or ends up losing his job to RH. Which some TNT fans could care less weather Trevor is there or not as long as Flo/Tea is still on show. And RH comes back
I want something for Trevor. So you can call selfish.
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Actually I prefer a story of remission and that's still a real life possibility. Have the tumor go into remission much like Marty's lupus miraculously disappeared.
Anyhoo, the reports I have read there's a small percentage that do kick into remission enough that the tumors shrink. Is it common? No, but it happens and it's a soap they can write her as one of the small percentages that it worked for. Just like Matthew was told by multiple specialist UNTIL Greg showed up he was paralyzed for life.
As for realistic meme I read enough of that BS from SID Editor who wants Tea to die so they can do T&K or T&B. Sorry, the word realism has never applied to the soap that writes time travel stories so we part company there.
As for wanting a story for Trevor, I see him getting some of the best material he's had in two years with this story. The story is challenging material, from playing heartbreak to having to be strong all the time to exploring his relationship with new child, Danielle. I far prefer watching him get THIS tough challenging material than back to playboy Don Juan crap of a Kelly/Todd/Blair triangle which YOU know is the next step if Tea dies... so no don't peddle this canard about freeing Trevor for some great story.
That's hogwash, he'll be propping up the failed GT 24/7 and stuck back in T&B hell.
Anyhoo, the reports I have read there's a small percentage that do kick into remission enough that the tumors shrink. Is it common? No, but it happens and it's a soap they can write her as one of the small percentages that it worked for. Just like Matthew was told by multiple specialist UNTIL Greg showed up he was paralyzed for life.
As for realistic meme I read enough of that BS from SID Editor who wants Tea to die so they can do T&K or T&B. Sorry, the word realism has never applied to the soap that writes time travel stories so we part company there.
As for wanting a story for Trevor, I see him getting some of the best material he's had in two years with this story. The story is challenging material, from playing heartbreak to having to be strong all the time to exploring his relationship with new child, Danielle. I far prefer watching him get THIS tough challenging material than back to playboy Don Juan crap of a Kelly/Todd/Blair triangle which YOU know is the next step if Tea dies... so no don't peddle this canard about freeing Trevor for some great story.
That's hogwash, he'll be propping up the failed GT 24/7 and stuck back in T&B hell.
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Pilaring wrote:Actually I prefer a story of remission and that's still a real life possibility. Have the tumor go into remission much like Marty's lupus miraculously disappeared.
Anyhoo, the reports I have read there's a small percentage that do kick into remission enough that the tumors shrink. Is it common? No, but it happens and it's a soap they can write her as one of the small percentages that it worked for. Just like Matthew was told by multiple specialist UNTIL Greg showed up he was paralyzed for life.
As for realistic meme I read enough of that BS from SID Editor who wants Tea to die so they can do T&K or T&B. Sorry, the word realism has never applied to the soap that writes time travel stories so we part company there.
As for wanting a story for Trevor, I see him getting some of the best material he's had in two years with this story. The story is challenging material, from playing heartbreak to having to be strong all the time to exploring his relationship with new child, Danielle. I far prefer watching him get THIS tough challenging material than back to playboy Don Juan crap of a Kelly/Todd/Blair triangle which YOU know is the next step if Tea dies... so no don't peddle this canard about freeing Trevor for some great story.
That's hogward, he'll be propping up the failed GT 24/7 and stuck back in T&B hell.
You are so right, Pilar. If Tea does die (which I'm really hoping she doesn't), Trevor won't be getting any great story. I would bet my next paycheck on it! He will be put in a Blair/Todd/Kelly triangle as we already saw previewed. GT has played Kelly Cramer as cold and frankly, unlikeable, and she fighting Blair over Todd has already gotten old and failed quickly. I will feel back for TSJ once that horrible triangle happens.
He is getting some great material to work with now - playing a humorous Todd at times as well as terrified and angry. You can say HELLO to a Todd/Blair reunion if Tea dies... that is a sure thing. I won't be watching that crap.
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And K/T/B won't be about Todd but about Cramer Cover fighting over him and RC will go back to that dreadful Don Juan crap that was so OOC.
The writing has improved too as we're finally getting glimpses into Todd's childhood which hasn't been mentioned in years... from TnT discussing TnT abandoned by their mothers to Todd explaining why he feels driven to be there for his kids to lean on. I also see a lot more focus spent on Todd & Dani relationship throughout this story.
The writing has improved too as we're finally getting glimpses into Todd's childhood which hasn't been mentioned in years... from TnT discussing TnT abandoned by their mothers to Todd explaining why he feels driven to be there for his kids to lean on. I also see a lot more focus spent on Todd & Dani relationship throughout this story.
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This is so thrilling for Trevor fans.
While you'll girl Flo and Kassie will both being standing up on stage getting their Emmy awards while Trevor is left in the dust.
Oh the joy of it. Plus I really don't think RC will get into Todd's past since he doesn't care enough about Trevor or Todd to write a storyline like for him. So no this storyline is not doing any favors for Trevor or Todd.
This storyline was written only for Flo, Tea, kassie, Blair and Trevor/Todd as nothing but a back dropped to them.
So with me I guess I want I something new for Trevor besides supporting player in storylines for RC's favorites.
Like I said call me a selfish Trevor fan.
While you'll girl Flo and Kassie will both being standing up on stage getting their Emmy awards while Trevor is left in the dust.
Oh the joy of it. Plus I really don't think RC will get into Todd's past since he doesn't care enough about Trevor or Todd to write a storyline like for him. So no this storyline is not doing any favors for Trevor or Todd.
This storyline was written only for Flo, Tea, kassie, Blair and Trevor/Todd as nothing but a back dropped to them.
So with me I guess I want I something new for Trevor besides supporting player in storylines for RC's favorites.
Like I said call me a selfish Trevor fan.
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trevorrules2 wrote:This is so thrilling for Trevor fans.
While you'll girl Flo and Kassie will both being standing up on stage getting their Emmy awards while Trevor is left in the dust.
Oh the joy of it. Plus I really don't think RC will get into Todd's past since he doesn't care enough about Trevor or Todd to write a storyline like for him. So no this storyline is not doing any favors for Trevor or Todd.
This storyline was written only for Flo, Tea, kassie, Blair and Trevor/Todd as nothing but a back dropped to them.
So with me I guess I want I something new for Trevor besides supporting player in storylines for RC's favorites.
Like I said call me a selfish Trevor fan.
Actually, I don't know if you've been watching the show, but KDP hasn't had a role in this storyline since Todd found out about Tea's tumor in mid-June. He took over taking Tea to radiation and spending time with her. Blair made a brief re-appearance at the hospital where she promised to help Dani, but most of those scenes involved Trevor, Flor, and Kelley. All 3 did a great job! I know I'm glad that Blair is pretty much out of this storyline now. However IF Tea does die - you can expect Blair and Kelly to comfort Todd and then fight over him. Like I said, I love TSJ but I will not watch a Blair/Todd/Kelly triangle because I think he's too good for BOTH women and deserves better. LOL
Oh I would LOVE for FL to get an emmy nom out of this storyline. She has worked her a$$ off during these last few months!
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^^^^Why would she get an emmy? She deserves it and she's from OLTL, it's like placing a "snub me" sign on your forehead.
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trevorrules2 - I can see your scenario happening a lot more than a miracle cure and would prefer something along those lines to a sudden miracle cure that has the slimmest chance of working. Eli can have the other women's tests constant substituted for Téa's and be drugging her to make it look like she's sick. With how lax they are in that hospital, he'd have no problem switching records and whatnot and he could have some of the staff in his pocket. At least that would be more believable than a sudden miracle cure.
Trevor's had more of a role the last couple of weeks, but I can't see it lasing. I want a storyline with Trevor as the focus - character-driven storyline. use James as a catalyst to get into Todd's past - maybe something happened to James on his 14th birthday, too. I know RC will never delve into Todd's past, but I'd love to see something like that. Maybe he's freaking out on James or something and grabs him and sends James into flashbacks of his abusive father and James freaks out and Todd recognizes something in it - James pleading not to be hit and flashing back to himself as a small child, being hit. Todd freezes in his tracks and he eventually gets James to open up, which leads to Todd opening up. They REALLY bond aver their similar childhoods and then they team up together to get Cole out of Starr's life. Those would be scenes that would bring OLTL at least an emmy's nom, though with TSJ's talent, it should be an emmy win.
I want a storyline in which Todd is the focus and the others around him are supporting. TSJ proved he could handle anything they give him during those execution scenes.
Trevor's had more of a role the last couple of weeks, but I can't see it lasing. I want a storyline with Trevor as the focus - character-driven storyline. use James as a catalyst to get into Todd's past - maybe something happened to James on his 14th birthday, too. I know RC will never delve into Todd's past, but I'd love to see something like that. Maybe he's freaking out on James or something and grabs him and sends James into flashbacks of his abusive father and James freaks out and Todd recognizes something in it - James pleading not to be hit and flashing back to himself as a small child, being hit. Todd freezes in his tracks and he eventually gets James to open up, which leads to Todd opening up. They REALLY bond aver their similar childhoods and then they team up together to get Cole out of Starr's life. Those would be scenes that would bring OLTL at least an emmy's nom, though with TSJ's talent, it should be an emmy win.
I want a storyline in which Todd is the focus and the others around him are supporting. TSJ proved he could handle anything they give him during those execution scenes.
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Pilaring wrote:And K/T/B won't be about Todd but about Cramer Cover fighting over him and RC will go back to that dreadful Don Juan crap that was so OOC.
The writing has improved too as we're finally getting glimpses into Todd's childhood which hasn't been mentioned in years... from TnT discussing TnT abandoned by their mothers to Todd explaining why he feels driven to be there for his kids to lean on. I also see a lot more focus spent on Todd & Dani relationship throughout this story.
I love that they are diving into Tea's childhood. I hope that Dani gets to know Todd in greater detail so they discuss HIS childhood next. I want him to discuss his father and the various issues involved to DANI - his newfound daughter. KM and TSJ have some great chemistry and I can't wait to see more.
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TSJFan4Ever wrote:trevorrules2 - I can see your scenario happening a lot more than a miracle cure and would prefer something along those lines to a sudden miracle cure that has the slimmest chance of working. Eli can have the other women's tests constant substituted for Téa's and be drugging her to make it look like she's sick. With how lax they are in that hospital, he'd have no problem switching records and whatnot and he could have some of the staff in his pocket. At least that would be more believable than a sudden miracle cure.
Trevor's had more of a role the last couple of weeks, but I can't see it lasing. I want a storyline with Trevor as the focus - character-driven storyline. use James as a catalyst to get into Todd's past - maybe something happened to James on his 14th birthday, too. I know RC will never delve into Todd's past, but I'd love to see something like that. Maybe he's freaking out on James or something and grabs him and sends James into flashbacks of his abusive father and James freaks out and Todd recognizes something in it - James pleading not to be hit and flashing back to himself as a small child, being hit. Todd freezes in his tracks and he eventually gets James to open up, which leads to Todd opening up. They REALLY bond aver their similar childhoods and then they team up together to get Cole out of Starr's life. Those would be scenes that would bring OLTL at least an emmy's nom, though with TSJ's talent, it should be an emmy win.
This last line saids it all for me. That's the kind of storyline I want to see again before Trevor's contract is up. OLTL hasn't had a 3.0 rating since the execution storyline. Because Trevor/Todd was the buzz in the storyline. That's one storyline Dena did right. And yes I would really love to see the ones that love Todd supporting him for once. The good characters don't need support their already loved by their love ones. That's where RC always gets it wrong with Todd and that makes RC a moran that he is.
I want a storyline in which Todd is the focus and the others around him are supporting. TSJ proved he could handle anything they give him during those execution scenes.[/quote]
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Yeah - the execution storyline was amazing! Trevor was absolutely heartbreaking and he should have won an emmy for those scenes, but OLTL has shown that it has little interest in truly winning, as they've made it nothing but a popularity contest. Dena did an amazing job with the execution storyline and I'd like to see another storyline for Todd that had that same emotional intensity. Exploring Todd's past could do just that. Téa could be the one to help Todd work through his issues and come to terms with his past, but I'd want the focus to be on Todd and not this whole cancer storyline.
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I really thought the next storyline was his but RC fool me again. He's obsess with the woman on this show besides the men.
The woman are more important to him than men are. I see that with every story he writes.
The woman are more important to him than men are. I see that with every story he writes.
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I have no interest in using Todd to prop up James OR Nate and that's what will become of any James opens up to Todd about his abusive childhood. I want Todd to open up about Victor Lord parallels to Dani explaining he gets in his gut what it means to learn you're bio-dad is a rapist. THOSE are the killer scenes RC has not written for T&D which would give Trevor amazing material and put focus on Todd's backstory again.
Frankly, I see this Tea dying story been more Todd-focused than others give credit for. Todd struggling to bond with Dani and deal with losing Téa. We see Todd confiding in Blair how difficult this is... we know from spoilers Todd will confide in Starr next week. Todd's struggling to keep it together but the cracks are there, we see more and more glimpses he's shoving that to back of his brain which means reality will hit him soon and shatter him like it always does.
I love TnT but it was a lopsided relationship for most of its history with Téa constantly focused on Todd's demons and working to SAVE HIM. From Dec '08 to July '09 Téa focused on saving Todd. Then it became about Téa's big secret which did put focus on her for the first time. But her cancer is a journey they are taking together now.
Frankly, I see this Tea dying story been more Todd-focused than others give credit for. Todd struggling to bond with Dani and deal with losing Téa. We see Todd confiding in Blair how difficult this is... we know from spoilers Todd will confide in Starr next week. Todd's struggling to keep it together but the cracks are there, we see more and more glimpses he's shoving that to back of his brain which means reality will hit him soon and shatter him like it always does.
I love TnT but it was a lopsided relationship for most of its history with Téa constantly focused on Todd's demons and working to SAVE HIM. From Dec '08 to July '09 Téa focused on saving Todd. Then it became about Téa's big secret which did put focus on her for the first time. But her cancer is a journey they are taking together now.
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