Gay-4-Pay

The military thread prompted this...



The porn industry is filled with (allegedly) straight men performing in gay porn for the money. The argument is that straight guys make a lot of money in gay porn than they do in straight, and that's why they do it. Do you believe that men who have sex with other men for money can actually be straight, or does men having sex with other men automatically spell gay to you (no matter what the excuse)?

Chris wrote:Do you believe that men who have sex with other men for money can actually be straight

Man hell no. They full o shit.
Will Smith dont get per picture what it would take for me to even consider that.

The "I do it for the money" excuse is pretty weak. All porn stars do it for the money, even the one's that enjoy the type of sex they're having. None of them do it for free. I'm not homophobic, but I doubt any porn studio could afford to pay what I would charge to let another guy touch me.

You be surprised at what some will do when they're on their final eviction notice.

Nah, they just like dick too.

Nystyle709 wrote:Nah, they just like dick too.

I don't believe in the concept of "gay-4-pay."
I've seen the first 2 guys' videos and if they're straight, then so is Clay Aiken.

I read this thread before I was able to watch the clips. SO GLAD I watched the clips before I commented. I was going to say something along the lines of, "everyone has their price."

But the guys here don't really put a good front for me to refute what the guys here have already said.

I don't have a penis, but I guess that it takes being aroused to actually obtain a boner.
So, these guys have to be at least more curious in men then they are what their W2's are going to boast as gross income at the end of the year.

So, my thought now is, if the term "gay for pay" was used in regard to a girl on girl porn demographic, what are your thoughts on that? Can it be "faked" easier? Or are straight girls in lesbian scenes lying to themselves too? Why or why not?

I'm in the middle. On one hand, some people (especially men) can seperate sexual activity from an emotional context and if you're in a desperate financial crunch, having alternative sex for money probably can look appealing. But I agree with RedBedroom when she pointed out that these guys weren't convincing. I actually saw that Tyra episode on TV and wasn't at all convinced by their assertions of being straight. They all seem either in personal denial or like they are protecting their image as "straight" men in gay porn.

I actually saw that Tyra show when it was broadcasted and have seen each of those guys in their porn roles. I believe that it is true, if your a goodlooking well built guy you can make tons of money in gay porn. If your Str8, it adds fuel to gay men's fantasies of having sex with a Str8 guy. If I had not seen the Bobby Garcia tapes and the Dirk Yates tapes I might not have believed it but I think if you wave enough money in front of a Str8 guy he will do it. Dean the last guy had been a featured model on the SCM (Straight College Men) site for years and now he has his own site and makes his own m/m porn videos.

I dunno if I can reconcile a guy claiming to be str8 after he's had a mouth full of another mans cum. I think all those guys on Tyra (seen all their vids) are as gay as christmas. LOL

RobbieFTW wrote:I dunno if I can reconcile a guy claiming to be str8 after he's had a mouth full of another mans cum. I think all those guys on Tyra (seen all their vids) are as gay as christmas. LOL

RobbieFTW wrote:I dunno if I can reconcile a guy claiming to be str8 after he's had a mouth full of another mans cum. I think all those guys on Tyra (seen all their vids) are as gay as christmas. LOL

I co-sign. If you had said as gay as they "cum", that would have been a great pun. LOL!

Okay, here's where I stand on this issue...

Disclaimer: I've only watched the first (upper left) video at this point.

A lot of this comes down to how you (as an individual) defines what it means to be gay. I personally feel that "gay" means having a homosexual orientation. In other words, a person who is sexually attracted to and/or romantically attracted to a member of the same sex is gay (regardless of what "acts" they do). Therefore, a gay person who only has sex with women is still GAY because he is performing acts outside of his orientation. With that in mind, I see no difference between that scenario and a straight person doing "gay" acts (for whatever reason). That in itself doesn't make an individual "gay".

Now some people think that being "gay" means performing gay acts, and if that is your opinion there is nothing wrong with that. The problem I have with this definition of "gay" is that it is completely subjective and variable. By that definition, anyone who's ever committed a homosexual act or even had a homosexual thought, under any circumstances at any point in their life is GAY! It also means that any guy can be accused of being "gay" as long as they have done something that meets someone elses definition of a "gay act". For example, I could say that any male who has ever watched a porno featuring a nude male actor in it is gay because he was aroused by something that features nude men and erect penises. I could also hypothetically say that any and every person serving in the military is gay because at some point or another they have showered openly with members of the same sex. After all, if you take a shower with another naked guy you must be gay right? And since nobody today was drafted into the military, it pretty much means you are "gay for pay" right?

Obviously, I don't buy that explaination and I doubt most other people would either. Yet, that's is exactly what it must mean if you go by that definition of gay. It also means that anyone who's ever had a heterosexual thought or committed a heterosexual act is by default straight (whether they are gay or not). So the "what acts you've committed before" definition just doesn't work when it comes to sexuality. Your orientation is just that, (what you prefer).

Having said all that, after watching the first guy.....HE'S GAY, and in denial! That is my prejudgement of him based on his mannerisms, how he comes off, and the way he answered some of those questions. I don't believe for one second that he is "straight". I think that HE believes that he is straight based on what he does at home (having a wife and children), but again, that doesn't make you straight! But I do believe that there are actually straight guys that will do homosexual acts either for pay, because of a dare, because they are curious/experimenting, or because they are drunk and/or on ex at the time, etc.