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    Post by JM130ELM Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:22 pm

    Really no I'm not. But what is your take on men who're so disgruntle over being circumcised as infants that they would go so far to have foreskin surgically restored?
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:27 pm

    I think it's an unnecessary and pointless "statement" that nobody is really going to take notice of.
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    Post by RedBedroom Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:23 pm

    I am not a man, but from a female perspective, that seems like a whole lot of "unnecessary" to go through.
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    Post by RiteDiva Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:45 pm

    It's really not that serious. And forgive me if this sounds judgmental, but from what I have observed it seems like it's largely gay men (after logging too many hours watching porn featuring men from abroad, perhaps) who have these extreme cases of foreskin envy & circumcision regret. Not all gay men I'm saying, but I haven't seen too many straight men who get as huffy and puffy over their circumcised penises that they would consider something this drastic, even if they don't agree with the practice of circumcision.
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    Post by CeCe Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:12 pm

    I think the man has to decide what's right for him & if he feels so strongly that he's willing to do something that at least appears to be somewhat extreme. Wouldn't know, but it sounds terribly painful & that there would be some degree of risk.
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    Post by Tony Marino Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:41 pm

    I guess its up to the individual, I would think that it may be a painful process but if he feels that strongly about it then why not. I have often wondered myself what it would have been like to be uncut but I would not go through the process of foreskin restoration, I can just wonder about it.
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    Post by Marc™ Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:45 pm

    JM130ELM wrote:Really no I'm not. But what is your take on men who're so disgruntle over being circumcised as infants that they would go so far to have foreskin surgically restored?

    Any dude who would is suffering from a severe case of
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    Post by Nystyle709 Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:23 pm

    ^^^^ For real.
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    Post by captainbryce Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:07 pm

    JM130ELM wrote:Really no I'm not. But what is your take on men who're so disgruntle over being circumcised as infants that they would go so far to have foreskin surgically restored?
    I'm going to be the devils advocate here and say that anyone who makes judgement over someone elses personal decision without having actually lived in their shoes is probably also incapable of preceiving things from a perspective outside of their own little box. If there was a similar procedure available for women who were victims of female genital mutilation, would everyone be so quick to say they should find something else better to do? Probably not. Why? Because female circumcision is HORRIBLE and everyone that is subjected to it is a "victim", but male circumcision "isn't that bad", meaning that no male is a true victim of it. At least, that is the common way of thinking in our circumcising society. Although, I'm sure public opinion on this would be much different if the question was asked in say Finland or Sweden.

    In any case, without giving my own opinion on foreskin restoration, I will simply say that the fact that there are men out there so disgruntled about their circumcision status that they would do this, is more proof that neonatal circumcision in the absense of medical necessity should be illegal! If a guy isn't circumcised at birth and grows up wanting to be circumcised he can just go get circumcised. If a guy was circumcised at birth and didn't want to be circumcised, he's fucked and subsequently subjected to ridicule! What a beautifully "fair" world we live in. Foreskin restoration for men in the US is philosophically no different than breast augmentation is for women who have low self esteem because of their own bodies. The only difference is that having small breasts is "natural" and not forced on anyone as an infant whereas circumcision is unnatural and was forced on someone else perhaps intensifying the psychological damage to certain fragile individuals.

    A quick hit on youtube produced this interesting tidbit.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YxZAZlaiKo
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    Post by Dan70 Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:26 pm

    captainbryce do realize though that MALE and FEMALE circumcision are two COMPLETELY different animals, don't you? A circumcised female has indeed been "mutilated". A circumcised male has merely had a cosmetic alteration, his genitalia is for all intents and purposes as functional as it would have been if he weren't.
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    Post by captainbryce Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:37 pm

    Dan70 wrote:captainbryce do realize though that MALE and FEMALE circumcision are two COMPLETELY different animals, don't you? A circumcised female has indeed been "mutilated". A circumcised male has merely had a cosmetic alteration, his genitalia is for all intents and purposes as functional as it would have been if he weren't.
    Dan, do you realize that your argument is merely an OPINION that is not universally shared by doctors worldwide? Do you realize that the term "mutilation" is often used subjectively in this sense? Do you realize that babies have in fact died from this "cosmetic alteration" before? Do you realize that there are 4 different types of FGM, the least serious of which is 100% analogous to the male circumcision often done in US hospitals? Do you realize that the vast majority of women who've undergone even the most extreme form of fgm are still fully capable of enjoying sex and having orgasms? Do you realize that I have done a college thesis on circumcision for psychology and have therefore done extensive research on this topic before getting an A? If not, I'm glad I could oblige you with these facts. Surprised
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    Post by Dan70 Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:26 pm

    captainbryce wrote:Dan, do you realize that your argument is merely an OPINION that is not universally shared by doctors worldwide? Do you realize that the term "mutilation" is often used subjectively in this sense? Do you realize that babies have in fact died from this "cosmetic alteration" before? Do you realize that there are 4 different types of FGM, the least serious of which is 100% analogous to the male circumcision often done in US hospitals? Do you realize that the vast majority of women who've undergone even the most extreme form of fgm are still fully capable of enjoying sex and having orgasms? Do you realize that I have done a college thesis on circumcision for psychology and have therefore done extensive research on this topic before getting an A? If not, I'm glad I could oblige you with these facts. Surprised

    captainbryce, do you realize that you are a bit too overzealous when it comes to this subject? Wind your neck in and get your facts straight before you start on this. The aim of female genital mutilation is to take the pleasure out of sex. This is NOT the aim of male circumcision. FFS, you pro uncut guys always fuck that one up, and it blows your credibility immediately.

    Mimicking female genital mutilation in boys would be slicing the cock-head off; not removal of foreskin.
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    Post by captainbryce Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:14 pm

    Dan70 wrote:
    captainbryce, do you realize that you are a bit too overzealous when it comes to this subject?
    So because I responded to this thread with a different opinion that makes me "overzealous"? The fact that you are on here trying to correct me with misinformation would seem to suggest that you are equally overzealous.

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    Wind your neck in and get your facts straight before you start on this. The aim of female genital mutilation is to take the pleasure out of sex. This is NOT the aim of male circumcision.
    Everything I've said so far DAN is factual. You are apparently not in full possession of the facts given the nature of your comments. There is no doubt in my mind that I know more about male circumcision than you do and a LOT more about female circumcision than you do and if you continue to engage me in a fact vs fact war you are going to embarrass yourself!

    Dan70 wrote:
    Mimicking female genital mutilation in boys would be slicing the cock-head off; not removal of foreskin.
    Again, you are not in full possession of the facts as this has already been addressed by me earlier. I understand that your intent is not to draw a parallel between male circumcision and female genital mutilation, and as honorable as a motive that may seem to you you really need to have all the information before you proceed with this line of reasoning. I'm actually going to rest my case here for the time being because I really want you to re-read what I previously wrote in my last post, then consider whether or not you want to challenge me with facts on this topic any further.

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