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    Does gun control prevent crimes?

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    Post by CatEyes10736 Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:56 am

    What do you think, do gun control laws effectively reduce gun crimes or not?
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    Post by Supernova Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:59 am

    Define gun control. I've heard this term for many years but never really got exactly what it's supposed to be. Tighter background checks and all that sort?

    The problem is that most criminals are NOT going to legally buy guns to commit crimes with, there's a black market, there's an underground market, they can get anything they want, that's why drugs are illegal and it's one of the top criminal activities and businesses, it's not allowed but still anybody can get them.

    But some people clearly think 9 out of 10 criminals are going to go to a gun store, wait 3 weeks on a cooling off period, wait for a background check, and then register their guns before taking them to break into somebody's home or blow a shopkeeper away. Well anybody who really thinks that, I would love to meet these people because they could qualify for some of the world's DUMBEST criminals, to not get caught, you take as few legal procedures with red tape and records as possible.
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    Post by RobbieFTW Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:11 am

    Not in the least. The people who would register their guns, are not the people who would use them for crimes. And of course, the ones who wouldn't do! If someone wants to commit a crime with a gun or any type of weapon for that matter, they know where to find them and I guarantee that it would not be legal! I would suspect that, it is just another way to be controlled and for the gov't to possibly tax or charge us another fee!
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    Post by Impact Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:49 am

    Every bit as well as birth control prevents abortion.

    Almost as much as DUIs, DWI,s prevent drunk drivers.

    Far more than "laws" prevent "crime".

    Since Cain and Abel, there has been crime. You can't legislate morality.

    If you are "fined" for a crime against society, why does the "state, county or city" get the money?
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    Post by CeCe Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:26 am

    Impact wrote:Every bit as well as birth control prevents abortion.

    Almost as much as DUIs, DWI,s prevent drunk drivers.

    Far more than "laws" prevent "crime".

    Since Cain and Abel, there has been crime. You can't legislate morality.

    If you are "fined" for a crime against society, why does the "state, county or city" get the money?

    Good points!
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:08 pm

    While we shouldn't be passing out guns on pretzel stands at street corners, the radical and ridiculous idea that taking guns away from civilians prevents crime is just naive. Criminals don't care about the law so outlawing guns isn't going to reduce crime.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:23 pm

    CatEyes10736 wrote:What do you think, do gun control laws effectively reduce gun crimes or not?
    no
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    Post by Jason B. Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:49 pm

    People need to stop and think, "How would gun control laws prevent or reduce crime?" People could easily purchase firearms from the black market.
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    Post by Supernova Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:08 pm

    JB wrote:People need to stop and think, "How would gun control laws prevent or reduce crime?" People could easily purchase firearms from the black market.


    That's the problem. These kinds of people clearly think the black market is just a myth, that anything that's illegal is off limits to EVERYBODY, law abiding citizen or not. And, in their bizarro world logic, they seem to think that law abiding citizen equals criminal.
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:22 am

    CatEyes10736 wrote:What do you think, do gun control laws effectively reduce gun crimes or not?
    Sure. In the same way that capital punishment deters crimes. Wink
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    Post by TSJFan4Ever Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:35 am

    Not in the least. The ones who abide by the gun control rules aren't the ones you have to worry about, anyway.
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    Post by Supernova Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:14 am

    TSJFan4Ever wrote:Not in the least. The ones who abide by the gun control rules aren't the ones you have to worry about, anyway.

    Exactly, it's like when stores put up those no guns allowed stickers, do they REALLY think somebody intent on robbing the place is going to say 'oh, it's illegal, so I better not'?
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:39 am

    Supernova wrote:

    Exactly, it's like when stores put up those no guns allowed stickers, do they REALLY think somebody intent on robbing the place is going to say 'oh, it's illegal, so I better not'?

    I sadly believe they do think that.
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    Post by Supernova Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:01 pm

    Exactly WHY is it people believe criminals (you know criminals, the people the police are always looking for because they BREAK LAWS) are going to follow a law that says they can't have weapons?
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:20 pm

    Supernova wrote:Exactly WHY is it people believe criminals (you know criminals, the people the police are always looking for because they BREAK LAWS) are going to follow a law that says they can't have weapons?

    They're sheep? xD


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