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    Post by Chris Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:04 pm

    What's your opinion of In Vitro Fertilization? For or against?

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    Post by Forgiveness Man Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:23 pm

    I'm against it. I guess I don't support making it illegal but I am at least morally opposed to it.
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    Post by TPP Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:56 pm

    I'm for it. Of course it should be used ethically, but I don't want the Octomom to ruin it for infertile couples everywhere. Also, remember that they "only" implanted 6 embryo's in her, but two of them split, identical twinning is more common in IVF, probably due to low calcium levels...It's also more common when you get pregnant while breastfeeding...Hence my identical twins.

    I believe that ethically speaking 3 should be the limit, but I wouldn't want there to be a law about it because it's such a personal thing.
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    Post by AtownPeep Thu Jan 13, 2011 2:33 pm

    I'm fine when it's used as a means for helping infertile couples conceive, but when it's used as a way to manipulate nature into giving the mother as many babies as possible, it becomes a problem.
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    Post by RedBedroom Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:06 pm

    I think it is a Blessing for couples who can not conceive.
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    Post by Supernova Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:53 pm

    This is one of my very unpopular opinions that I basically become the enemy of the state or something for saying it, but I'm against it. I can understand every couple wants to have their own baby, but life proves all the time that we don't always get what we want, and in the meantime there are millions of fine kids who are already here and nobody wants but does that make them any less deserving of a good home and loving family?
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:10 pm

    ^^^^You won't become the enemy of the state with me. FORGIVENESS MAN
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    Post by Marc™ Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am

    I don't see any point in being against it, most women who take advantage of it aren't as nutty as the Octomom. If she's having trouble conceiving, why not? I don't understand why some people are against the innovations of medical science.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:55 am

    Marc™️ wrote:I don't see any point in being against it, most women who take advantage of it aren't as nutty as the Octomom. If she's having trouble conceiving, why not? I don't understand why some people are against the innovations of medical science.
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    Post by CatEyes10736 Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:50 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:I'm against it. I guess I don't support making it illegal but I am at least morally opposed to it.

    I'll be the bold one here and ask.
















    Why are you morally opposed to it Forgiveness Man?
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    Post by Supernova Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:57 pm

    Marc™ wrote: I don't understand why some people are against the innovations of medical science.


    Well one reason is because science has proven countless times that they devote years of time and millions of dollars into proving if they CAN do something without posing the question IF they should, and when other people ask the big IF, they can't supply a good answer.

    What I consider to be a good example of this is, why does science in one of its next big ideas want to make it so you can customize what your baby will look like before it's even conceived? Shouldn't they instead be finding ways to make sure they aren't born with tumors or their hearts outside of their chests or something more important than just 'oh! I can pick the platinum blonde hair and light blue eyes and a nicely tanned skin for it!'? I could care less if my child has the 'right' colored hair or 'right' colored eyes, how about making sure it isn't born with cancer or diabetes or a bad heart instead? Or is that not important enough, or is it just not as interesting to the paying public as 'as-you-like-it-babies'?
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    Post by Supernova Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:01 pm

    Marc™ wrote:I don't see any point in being against it, most women who take advantage of it aren't as nutty as the Octomom.


    And another thing about this part of the argument is it is NOT just the Octomom. Let us NOT forget that she did NOT do this herself, a DOCTOR did this to her. A doctor, who knew that she couldn't afford to have eight kids, somehow, for some sick reason, did it to her anyway, and why? Did he think it would be a great idea? I severely doubt that she had the money to actually pay for the procedure and doctors are a lot of things these days but altruistic isn't one of them, they want money. So if she couldn't afford the procedure, which if I'm not mistaken IS very expensive, why did he do it? Why did he think it would be a good idea to make 8 more kids into a woman who already had 6? This to me shows that doctors and scientist can suffer from a SEVERE lack of logic, so why shouldn't we question the things they do?
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    Post by Chris Sat Jun 11, 2011 5:51 pm

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    Post by Nystyle709 Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:19 pm

    If you got the money and means and you can't get pregnant....then rock it out.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:30 am

    The technology exists. You ain't putting that genie back in the bottle so being against it because some unethical doctor helps some whack job abuse it is no reason to deny all the infertile couples the benefit that it could bring.
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    Post by Impact Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:55 pm

    alan smithee wrote:The technology exists. You ain't putting that genie back in the bottle so being against it because some unethical doctor helps some whack job abuse it is no reason to deny all the infertile couples the benefit that it could bring.
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    That's like being against adoption, because some may be child-selling rings. IVF is a Godsend to infertile couples. One abusive physician enabling a whackjob like Nadya Suleman isn't a good enough argument to stifle it.

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