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    The bro code: How much affection is too much?

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    Post by Chris Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:20 am

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    The bro code: How much affection is too much?
    A YouTube video of two hand-holding NBA players caused an Internet uproar


    By Bill Briggs
    TODAY.com contributor TODAY.com contributor
    updated 4/25/2011 9:02:15 AM ET


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    The most uproarious NBA replay in ages — a 10-second clip that forced YouTube to curb comments — showed no wicked elbow thrown, no impossibly deep three nailed, no dunkadelic rim rattler.

    What triggered all the typed and tweeted tantrums? This on-screen action: Toronto Raptors guard Leandro Barbosa gently clasping the palm of his teammate, Reggie Evans, during their victory stroll to the locker room earlier this month after defeating the Orlando Magic.

    We’ve accepted the man hug — that brief shoulder bump between dudes, and we’re OK the handshake-hug combo. But when it comes to physical affection between two straight dudes, hand-holding seems to be more than America is ready for.

    Why? Simple. The hand-holding was a clear violation of our current interpretation of “The Bro Code” — which supersedes NBA rules, NASCAR rules, NATO rules and the Geneva Convention.

    Check “The Bro Code” Facebook page, modeled after rules decreed by “How I Met Your Mother’s” Barney Stinson. The page lists 150 “articles” or rules to guide the lives of fellas, thugs and dawgs from Bieber to Bruce Lee — and every guy on the vast testosterone spectrum in between.

    Scan down to Article 42 of The Code: “a Bro may engage in a high five, fist bump, or a Bro hug.” Next, read Article 143: “a Bro is forbidden from intertwining fingers of … his Bro's hand.”

    And don’t bother looking to Europe for roughneck role models. Soccer teammates over there are known to occasionally kiss one another smack on the mouth after goals. (There’s even been evidence of post-goal cuddling.)

    And according to a study released last fall by Bath University in England, “same-sex lip-locks among straight men are the norm in British universities and high schools.”

    In the States, however, any physical gesture beyond the bro hug — well, it’s enough to shut down YouTube comments, apparently. Here, “homophobia is still alive and well,” said Dr. Dale Archer, a psychiatrist who practices in Lake Charles, La. “This is partly due to a variety of religious and cultural attitudes, but it’s mainly based on fear. Fear that somewhere deep inside us lurks a homosexual side and if we’re not very careful this will break free and take control of our world, and of us.”

    Unlike those in Europe, many in the U.S. can’t seem to imagine that sometimes a hug is just a hug.

    “Athletes go to war all season long — but under the microscope of the American eye, [if they show] anything more than the man hug or bro hug, America spends its time judging or questioning,” said Phil Dembo, a St. Louis relationship coach. (It's worth noting here that Barbosa -- he of the hand-holding -- isn't American; he's Brazilian.)

    In fact, for some American guys, even the man hug is crossing a line.

    “I'm not a big fan of the bro hug, but only because that's just something new to me,” said Cyrus Webb, a 35-year-old radio show host and blogger from Brandon, Miss. “Growing up, guys gave handshakes, ladies got the hugs.

    “I didn't personally have a problem with the gesture on the (hand-holding) video,” Webb added. “But I can understand why some who are sensitive about what is seen to be a manly or masculine event would see it as something that wasn't cool.”

    At least for now, hand-holding is certainly not up to bro code.

    But as Chris Hall, administrator of The Bro Code Facebook page, points out, “(G)iven the above-average height of NBA players, I’m not sure who else they are supposed to hold hands with — if not each other.”

    Bill Briggs is a contributor to Today.com and author of the nonfiction book “The Third Miracle.”
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    Post by Tony Marino Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:24 am

    In my family the men always kiss each other in greeting (on the cheek) and I kiss some of my male friends when I greet them. People make so much out of affection these days.
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    Post by Supernova Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:38 am

    Tony Marino wrote:In my family the men always kiss each other in greeting (on the cheek) and I kiss some of my male friends when I greet them. People make so much out of affection these days.


    They make TOO much out of it these days, of course that's largely just the narrow minded western society speaking, other cultures are not so uptight about the littlest things, hell, they don't get uptight over the big things.

    Now I have a friend who has a theory, this isn't word for word her thinking but the gist of it is boys are brouight up believing tears are weak, affection is weak, that they can't be affectionate with other boys, so it's no wonder so many of them grow up to become hardened criminals because basically the only emotion they've been taught is acceptable as a male is anger.


    Edit: And I'd also like to add it seems very obvious none of these sports fans would like the things I have to write because several of my stories that I'm working on push the limit on what western society considers to be appropriate behavior between two people, especially men.
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    Post by Tony Marino Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:43 am

    Supernova wrote:
    Tony Marino wrote:In my family the men always kiss each other in greeting (on the cheek) and I kiss some of my male friends when I greet them. People make so much out of affection these days.


    They make TOO much out of it these days, of course that's largely just the narrow minded western society speaking, other cultures are not so uptight about the littlest things, hell, they don't get uptight over the big things.

    Now I have a friend who has a theory, this isn't word for word her thinking but the gist of it is boys are brouight up believing tears are weak, affection is weak, that they can't be affectionate with other boys, so it's no wonder so many of them grow up to become hardened criminals because basically the only emotion they've been taught is acceptable as a male is anger.


    Edit: And I'd also like to add it seems very obvious none of these sports fans would like the things I have to write because several of my stories that I'm working on push the limit on what western society considers to be appropriate behavior between two people, especially men.

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    Post by CeCe Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:46 am

    The US. Lagging behind as always.
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    Post by CeCe Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:47 am

    Tony Marino wrote:
    Supernova wrote:


    They make TOO much out of it these days, of course that's largely just the narrow minded western society speaking, other cultures are not so uptight about the littlest things, hell, they don't get uptight over the big things.

    Now I have a friend who has a theory, this isn't word for word her thinking but the gist of it is boys are brouight up believing tears are weak, affection is weak, that they can't be affectionate with other boys, so it's no wonder so many of them grow up to become hardened criminals because basically the only emotion they've been taught is acceptable as a male is anger.


    Edit: And I'd also like to add it seems very obvious none of these sports fans would like the things I have to write because several of my stories that I'm working on push the limit on what western society considers to be appropriate behavior between two people, especially men.

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    Post by Marc™ Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:07 pm

    I notice they turned off the comments on that video. They would have been off the chain.
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    Post by RobbieFTW Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:34 am

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