MICHAEL:
It is your 40th Anniversary with One Life to Live,
and we are celebrating it on air with tomorrow’s special episode. It
has to be bittersweet with the heartbreaking news of the show’s
cancellation a week and half ago. How are you doing with the news? I
know it is still so fresh, and I know you released a statement to the
fans. But since you may have had a tiny bit more time to process it,
is there anything else you may want to add?


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ERIKA:
We have seven more months left. I have talked to Frank Valentini
(executive producer, OLTL) and he had told me there are brilliant
stories to be told. And, that we will go out with a bang. Right now,
I can only look forward to the next seven months. After that, I think
I will sleep for a while, because getting up at 5AM is tiring. I have
done it for 40 years and I can’t complain, because it has been a
brilliant job. I am very sorry to see it go, and not so much for me,
but for the incredible loss of jobs for everyone connected with the
show. And, I don’t mean just the people that work there every day. I
mean the hundreds and hundreds of actors who are employed as
under-fives, and as extras and day players every year. There is work
for actors there, and now there is not. I don’t know about nighttime
shows hiring those people on that type of scale. And I find that
horrendously sad, and the jobs that are lost are so awful. However, we
have seven months to make some really good stories, and that is what we
are going to focus on.

MICHAEL:
Speaking of your 40th, on my website we posted a fantastic
photo gallery of your surprise party last month at OLTL. I hear you
were totally surprised! What went through your mind when you saw all
of the cast and crew there to mark this incredible accomplishment with
you?

ERIKA:
When the notice went up that we were having a St. Patrick’s Day
party, I was talking to David Coleman, who is our security guard. He
is like the Mayor of Llanview and the show would not exist without
him. He does everything. If you have a problem with your life, or
your computer, he can fix it! David looked at me and said, “Hmm,
interesting! St. Patrick’s Day party on your 40th Anniversary?” And I
looked at him and said, “How do you know it’s my 40th anniversary?” And
he said, “Because I have always known it was March 17^th, St.
Patrick’s Day.” I said, “Look, they have given me parties in the past
and have said to me, ‘Look, we are going to give you a nice party and
we are going to invite Agnes Nixon, and it will be lovely.’ And it has
always been lovely. No one had said anything this time. And I said,
“And it would be kind of dumb to surprise me, wouldn’t it? “ And I
thought (regarding the St. Patrick’s Day party) that this is really
nice of Frank. It has been a really long rotten winter. We moved down
to that other studio, which is terrific. But I thought, ‘It’s an
excuse to have lunch on the floor and welcome in spring.’ Then the day
of the party I was finished taping at noon, and lunch was going to be
at 12:30. I was really hungry, as I eat a little breakfast usually
around seven in the morning. And I said to Robin Strasser (Dorian) as
we were leaving the set, “Thank God. I am so hungry.” And I went to
my dressing room to change and Frank showed up at my dressing room door
at 12:25. And I said, “Oh good. Let’s go to lunch.” And he said, “No,
I have to talk to you first.” And he started talking about nothing.
“Oh, I wanted to say this, and I saw the show that we aired, and it’s
going to be interesting with the editing.” And he is still taking
about nothing! I am looking at my watch and I go, “Frank, can we go to
lunch? I am really hungry.” Well, he keeps talking, and he is
walking ahead of me very, very slowly down the corridor – and I am
thinking, “Geez! I am starving. Will you move it?” And we go up in the
elevator together and he is still talking away, and he pushed open the
door and he is still talking…and…. everyone is standing there looking
at the door. They yelled, “surprise!” I looked at Frank as I thought
it was something for Frank. I was so stupid! And then, everyone
started applauding and that is when I realized what it was. I felt
stupid, incredibly honored, and surprised, and of course cried, because
that is what you do when you are that stunned. It was quite amazing.


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MICHAEL:
But then, there was even more in store for you once you entered your own party!

ERIKA:
Yes, there was. I kind of walked into the room slowly and there are
about 20 people wearing t-shirts that said “Erika” on them. I thought
“Oh, my God”, and my daughter. Amanda was there, too. She had flowers
for me. It was so sweet. And my husband, Brian, who gets his hair cut
at the studio, said to me that he was going to come in on that
Thursday. So Brian had been there in the morning and he vanished, and
he was going to have the dogs groomed that day. So I thought, I will
catch up with him when the dogs finished their grooming. And of course,
he walked in, too. Apparently, everybody knew but me. It was
amazing! And what kind of blew me away was the beautiful reel they put
together, which had Nathan Fillion (Ex-Joey, now Castle) on
it, my sweet boy! He was on the reel, and that boy is not a boy, he is
a man, but he is so wonderful. I love him to death, I really do. And
David Pressman was on the reel, Brian Frons, and Agnes Nixon, too. I
did have to laugh because Regis and Kelly were on it and the ladies of The View.
Then, they had this enormous spread of food. I finally said, “Gosh, I
am really hungry. Can I get something to eat?” (Laughs) Then somebody
else said, “No, you have to cut the cake now.” And I thought, ‘OK, I
will cut the cake.’ I never did get lunch, but it was OK. (Laughs)

MICHAEL:
There was one picture I saw of Robin Strasser applauding you
with you in tears. And I thought, it looked like such a great moment.
ERIKA:
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She is my great bud and she is wonderful! Jerry verDorn (Clint)
made a speech. I said, “Jerry, you are not even working today, you
drove all the way from New Jersey?” And he said, “Of course I did.” I
was so touched by that and what Robin said. I love Robin dearly. I
think she feels the same about me. We respect each other, and she is
so great to work with. I have always said, “Robin, when you have to
bring something to the table, you bring a thanksgiving feast every
single day when you go to work.” It was quite an amazing day and you
look around and go: “All these people are here for me.” I said to
Frank, “You know, I could kill you for this, but at the same time,
thank you, thank you. It was awesome!” I was kind of hoping it would
go under the radar, because I don’t feel like I have been there for 40
years. I am surprised that 40 years have gone by. I am thinking of
all the stories we have told and all the amazing actors I have worked
with.

MICHAEL:
Continuing in the celebration, how did this upcoming 40th
anniversary episode that airs Wednesday come about? Was this the
brainchild of Frank and Ron to honor you in this way?

ERIKA:
Yes it was. Frank came to me about four months ago. He said,
“Listen, we do want to do something for your 40th anniversary, and we
are writing a special show for you.” And I burst into tears and said,
“Whoa! That is like amazing!” He said, “Yeah, it’s going to be
great.” And I said, “What is it about?” And he said, “We don’t know
yet, but it is going to be your show.” Then, I did not hear any more
about it till about three weeks before we were going to do it. Larry
Carpenter, our director called me and said, “So, I am directing this
show and it is all you and we need to talk about it.” I said, “Great.
Do you know what it’s about?” And he said, “Yes, don’t you?” It was
then he told me, and then Frank came to me and we had a long sit down.
So I knew then it was going to be about Viki’s alters. Frank and Larry
came up with this incredible idea for a set that is so amazing. Roger
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MICHAEL:So give me the set-up of the special episode, which I hear is truly a tour de force by you!

ERIKA:
The episode takes place in the courtroom where Viki is fighting for
custody of Ryder. And of course, I become Niki, so it’s Niki pretending
to be Viki. She gets outed in the middle of it and she is very funny.
Then Jean takes over, and it cuts back and forth to Viki’s subconscious
mind. So I played all three ladies in my mind, but Larry’s and Frank’s
concept for my mind was this incredible warehouse that had all kinds of
stuff from One Life to Live from Viki’s life. I am talking
about furniture, and mirrors, and in the middle is a cage, and there is
a circular staircase, and guess where that came from? The secret room!
It has a cage and there are two locked doors to the cage, and Viki has
to get out of her mind and get up the stairs to get back to where she
belongs; and get back to life. We shot it in two days. The courtroom
was one day, and the second day was this unbelievable set that took up
half the size of the studio. I walked around the set and thought, ‘My
God! These are chairs from the Lord Library. This was Asa’s.’ I
recognized most of the furniture, and I said to Roger, “This must have
cost a fortune!” And he said, “No, we own all of this.” And we did it
in three separate segments. I had two wonderful ladies who worked with
me who were the doubles. First we taped Viki, then Jean, and then
Niki, which was kind of good because then it was a nice high note to
end on. Everything is a little larger than life in there, and Niki in
particular. I have said as you may have read, “I have officially
joined Over-Actors Anonymous,” but I had to. I had to seize that
opportunity. (Laughs) Larry said they had finished editing it, and
it’s going to be really good. I have not seen it, but I will see it on
Wednesday when it airs. I have made a date with myself. I think I am
almost in every scene. It has a lot of me! (Laughs)

MICHAEL:
Last week, we saw Viki pushed to the edge by Tess; thus the
emergence of Niki. You make the shift to the alters so real and
incredibly sad and painful for the viewers to watch. You have done
this time and time again, but of course, in different scenarios where
Dorian triggers the alters, or other life-altering events in Viki’s
life. Are those scenes particularly difficult to pull off?

ERIKA:
It’s very difficult to do, because in my mind I know what triggers
this. We did a lot of research when Michael Malone wrote the multiple
story; when we decided to give Viki’s DID a reason. The sadness of
that is what caused the mind to split. I saw videotape with the
permission of the psychiatrist and the patient of a woman who was a
multiple, and it was during her session. Again, we had her permission,
and it was just the directors and I, and it was just incredibly sad,
because the woman is a perfectly normal, very nice looking lady, who
was horrendously abused as a child by various family members. She has
a whole bunch of personalities and they show up in the oddest way.
There is absolute silence, and then she comes back as somebody
completely different. And it looks like ‘bad acting’ but its not. It’s
a whole different personality and very strange and sad to see. So when
we do it on our show, we have to make the personalities distinct
characters. This last time, I did not want to give it away because
Viki was supposedly having a heart attack while Clint is having a heart
attack. So when I came back I did not want the audience to know
instantly it was Niki. There were like a couple of deep breaths, and I
let them think Viki has composed herself. Then she turns around, and I
actually wrote the line that Niki says to Tess, “God. You’re annoying!”
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MICHAEL:
How has it been having Kim Zimmer as Viki’s nemesis, Echo,
on the canvas with you? And then getting the opportunity as Viki to
let Echo have it for destroying her marriage to Charlie. Those were
great scenes!

ERIKA:
I love Kim Zimmer, just let me say that. When Frank told me he was
asking her to come back I was so excited, because it was brilliant, and
it was part of the history of the show. Kim is a wonderful actress and
a great person. From the first day she showed up we have laughed a lot
and had such a good time. And those scenes where Viki confronts Echo,
I thought were particularly good. It is hard to be really angry with
Kim because she has such a sweet face on her. But I loved playing
those scenes and I think she did, too. And after that, I had scenes in
the carriage house where I told her to get out, which I loved!

MICHAEL:
Niki now has the confession tape showing Echo knew all along that Clint was Rex’s father, not Charlie!

ERIKA:
Dorian gave her the tape, and Niki could care less. And then she
realizes Echo could cause a problem for her with Charlie, and then she
just figures I will go over there and threaten her. Niki is going
through Echo’s closet when Echo comes in the room, and Niki just thinks
everything she owns is just so ugly. (Laughs). And the rest you have to
watch!

MICHAEL:
How do you feel about Viki losing another husband, as we
know, Brian Kerwin will be leaving the series soon? Many felt that
Charlie was just not a good match for Viki, but yet they had such a
sweet and pure love story originally at the Bon Jour Café.


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ERIKA:
I think real life intruded on it. There were some very sweet things
that Charlie says that Viki realizes are kind of right. He never could
live up to what he thought Viki expected of him. She didn’t. She was
quite happy to have Charlie, who was an incredibly good person… flawed,
but good. He says, “Echo understands because she is a drunk, and
understands the failings and the flaws of another human being.” And it
probably was not a good match for Viki, because there is a lot to live
up to… living in that house, everybody loving her, and being so rich.
Even though that is not her as a person, it is the trappings that come
with her that Charlie realizes. I think at the end she should realize
it too, but she is heartbroken because she loves Charlie. He is a
really a good guy and Brian Kerwin (Charlie) is such a doll. The whole
Paris, Texas story I loved so much because it took Viki out of Viki.
It made her just the person who she is, but without the trappings. She
was so content being there, serving coffee, being a waitress, and
meeting real people. Viki and the audience met wonderful characters
there: Mo, Noelle, Gigi, Shane, and Charlie, and all the people in and
out of the café. It was such a release and a relief for her to be away
from the litany of problems in Viki’s life.

MICHAEL:
Have you and Brian said your goodbyes?

ERIKA:
Yes, unfortunately he is finished already, and I miss him. He is a
really good actor and a delightful person, but I wish him all the best,
of course.

MICHAEL:
How have you enjoyed the pairing of Tess and Niki working
together, as they are attempting to do in the custody case for Ryder?
Do you and Bree get a kick out of those scenes? Yet, there is such
great back-story there for what Niki did that left Jess vulnerable when
she was a child and split in to Tess.


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ERIKA:
Yes, because we never played that. The one thing we talked about
was that Tess was initially supposed to be like another Niki. Bree
Williamson (Jess/Tess) does not play it that way, which is brilliant.
Tess has a lot more feeling and heart. Niki doesn’t care about
anything except her own freedom. She is the most selfish,
self-centered person on earth, because that is what she was created to
be. It did not matter what happened, she would deal with it. Tess is
meaner than Niki, because Tess has more dimension. When multiples are
created, they are individually created to deal with certain problems
and secrets. Niki was created to deal with the sex, and so that is all
she cares about. It does not bother her to go sleep around, drink, and
be totally irresponsible. She is the antithesis of Viki. We were very
careful to be very separate as alters. Bree is such a good actress and
she has played this character of Tess so well, and we have lot more
coming up with Viki and Tess that is really good!

MICHAEL:
Did you ever take issue with the back-story that was created for Jessica’s abuse, because of the behavior of Niki?

ERIKA:
I did not have trouble with it, but I thought it was the only way to
deal with it. They decided to have Jessica become Tess, and I was
chatting with Frank one day and I said, “Where did Tess come from?”
And he said, “We hadn’t quite figured that out yet. It probably should
have been because of one of your alters.” I said, “The only one that
it could be is Niki. The other ones would not have done that.” And he
said, “That is where we are going, we think.” And that is where they
did go. Of course, it was so hard for Viki to have to deal with that
because it’s her fault. It is not her fault, but it is her fault. But
truly, it’s Victor’s fault for abusing her in the first place and
creating her alters. But Viki is not responsible for the actions of
the alter. She feels she is, but not really.

MICHAEL:
One of the comments I loved from OLTL head writer, Ron
Carlivati, in this current story is; he loved when he flips Erika into
Niki, and then you are Niki trying to pretend to be Viki. Are those
some of the most fun for you?


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ERIKA:
They are so much fun for me, and that is what the first half of the
courtroom scene is about. Niki is pretending to be Viki, and she
thinks she is doing a really good job. And so everything is slightly
exaggerated because that is what she thinks Viki is. It is terrific
fun. I am like the kid in the biggest sandbox in the world!

MICHAEL:
No matter what goes on in their lives, Viki and Clint are
there for each other, even after the horrendous things Clint has done
that have now hurt Viki. Do you think there is hope now for a
Viki/Clint reconciliation? How has it been acting alongside Jerry
verDorn?

ERIKA:
There is love there. She understands Clint and the difficulties he
is having now, and the difficulty he had with his father’s passing.
She has known Clint for a very long time and she always loved him. And
yes, they couldn’t be married anymore because then executive producer
Linda Gottlieb decided we shouldn’t be married anymore. I hope there
is a reconciliation for Viki and Clint. We have seven months to do it,
so let’s do it. And Jerry verDorn is one of the most awesome human
beings on this earth, and you can’t be mean to him. I don’t care what
he does. He is just fantastic. Jerry is amazing as a bad Clint!

MICHAEL:
Viki is going to have an internal struggle in the courtroom
during the Ryder custody case this week. This is not the first time
she has had her alters come out on the witness stand. At one point,
didn’t they drag Niki out on the witness stand years ago?

ERIKA:
Yes, after Mitch Laurence killed Harry O’Neill, another awesome
guy. Have I been a lucky girl! I remember working with Frank Converse
(Ex-Harry). And I remember a scene where I was Niki and we were dancing
some place, and I looked up at him, and it was in rehearsal, and I
could not help myself, and I said, “God, you are handsome.” And he was
so embarrassed he did not know where to look. This is one of the most
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MICHAEL:
And speaking of handsome, there was also Mark Derwin, as your Ben?

ERIKA:
I love him. He sent me the cutest email after my 40th stating that
he was sorry he could not be on the tribute reel, but his mother had
been ill and he could not make time for that. But I thought it was
just as well, because God knows what he would have said. He is so
disrespectful, but I love that man. (Laughs) He sent me a cute email
afterwards stating, “You know, people ask about our time together and
we never had a day we did not have fun.” And it’s true. Mark is like a
big wonderful child. I used to call him “My favorite 14-year old.”

MICHAEL:
When you look back at playing truly one of the all-time most
memorable characters in soaps for forty years, what moments, either as
Viki or personally to you as Erika, stand out in your mind? Certain
Emmy wins? A little nugget, or a moment that may have happened on set,
or a favorite storyline?

ERIKA:
I think the sixth Emmy win was the most stunning. To win against
seven other awesome actresses was incredible. And, that is when we had
the lunch the day before and Susan Flannery (Stephanie, B&B) had
organized it. It was fantastic! We closed the restaurant. I think
they were ready to throw us out. There we were drinking champagne and
laughing and screaming. And Susan kind of vanished near the end and
came back and she settled the bill. I can’t imagine what the bill must
of have been. We easily drank 8 to 10 bottles of champagne among the
eight of us. So to have a fabulous lunch and to have laughed and
laughed and tell stories, it was just unbelievable! And I had never
met Michelle Stafford (Phyllis, Y&R) and Juliet Mills (Tabitha Ex-Passions)
before. I knew Martha Byrne (Ex-Lily, ATWT) but not very well. I knew
Kim Zimmer and Kassie DePaiva (Blair, OLTL). Nancy Lee Grahn (Alexis,
GH), I knew well because we worked together. I yelled at Susan, “You
shouldn’t pay the entire bill.” And she goes, “Let it go. Whoever wins
tomorrow can pay next year.” And we all said, “ha-ha-ha.” And when I
made my acceptance speech I should have said, “Lunch is on me next
year.” But all I could think of was all of these amazing actresses and
how did they pick me? I don’t know. The best part of that win was the
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MICHAEL:
Where are your record six Daytime Emmys that you have won
over the forty years as Viki? When you look at them now, is it still
surreal? Do you realize what an amazing accomplishment and honor that
is?

ERIKA:
I do. I am honored and floored. We have a little library and they
are in a bookcase there. I will walk by and go, “Wow.” The first one
I got was given to me by Stuart Damon (Ex-Alan, GH) and it was not
televised. I have kept all the little envelopes. Stuart and my
husband were dear old friends, and when I won Stuart said, “Take the
envelope.” And that is the only proof I had that I won, because my name
is in the middle, but it also has the names of the other nominees, so
it’s kind of lovely to see.

MICHAEL:
You have seen so many regimes come and go over your forty
years at OLTL. Right now, this show is must-see TV, as it has always
been, but particularly now it seems that all stories are firing on all
cylinders, which makes this cancellation all the more disturbing and
disheartening. How has it been for you handling the changes behind the
scenes throughout the years?

ERIKA:
Every time a producer leaves I think that’s the end of me, because
they come in and recast, but I stayed. I started in 1971 and thought I
had a two-year contract. I was stupid. I did not know they could fire
me anytime they wanted to. And I say, I do not know how forty years
have gone by, but one year turned to another. I got married and I had
children, and I still had this brilliant, wonderful job. People come
and go, and you get closer to some than others. I cannot think of a
better job for an actress over a long period. I am sure it’s great to
be a movie star and make a ton of money and stuff, but I have
consistently worked for forty years, and taken vacations when I wanted;
knowing I have a job to come back to. That is incredible for an
actress, and it just doesn’t happen.

MICHAEL:
Whenever I speak to your castmates, no matter whom, they
always tell me you know your lines as well as everyone else’s. (Laughs)
Do you make that a point?


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ERIKA:
Yes. I don’t necessarily learn everybody else’s line, I learn my
lines. I come from the theatre and it’s important to me. You can’t
give a performance if you don’t know what you are going to say. I am
not up there making it up, and people still write letters and go, “God,
you have to make that up everyday?” No, you don’t make it up, it’s
written. You frame the performance around the words, and all of that
has to be prepared in advance. You can’t just fake it. I have had
people who don’t know their lines in scenes with me that are very
emotional. Because you are on a track, and I know how to build the
performance, they will say, “Oh, I don’t’ know my line, or what to
say.” Then you are screwed and you have to build that performance all
over again, and go back to the beginning. There is no time to do all
the preparation all over again. But that does not happen often. And
when people go up on a line, it is generally an honest mistake. There
are a few people over the years that just couldn’t be bothered to learn
their lines, but they are not there anymore.

MICHAEL:
Now, as the series is ramping up for its final months, what
is it going to be like for you having Roger Howarth (First-Todd) back?

ERIKA:
I am delighted! I wanted to call him, but I don’t have his phone
number. But I wanted to say, “Thank God. He is coming back.” I loved
working with Roger. He is a very talented, really clever, really nice
guy. He is kind of shy and keeps to himself, but he is such an
interesting actor, and we had a wonderful time working together
before. So I am looking forward to that a lot.

MICHAEL:
I know this may be too soon to ask this question, but
knowing that Viki’s life will not be able to be seen by viewers after
January 2012 on ABC Daytime, is there something you would still love to
get the opportunity to do, or play that you haven’t, before it ends?
And, how would you like to see Viki’s final moments play out on-air as
the show comes to unfortunate fade to black?


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ERIKA:
No, I don’t think there is anything left I would still love to
play. I make jokes that I have no organs left except my appendix. I
have had every illness under the sun except, I have not been a drunk or
a drug addict, and I don’t think I want to do that. I don’t think that
is a direction for Viki to go in. At the end, I would love to see her
happy. Who knows what they are going to write? But it should honor
the show. And the final scene shouldn’t just be Viki. It should be
Viki and Clint, and Bo and Nora, and all the people who have been there
and have been the heart and soul of that show for all those years.