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    Post by Shale Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:44 pm

    Barack Obama Was Not Born in Florida
    by Shale Stone
    June 2, 2011

    No, this is not a part of those conspiracy fools challenge to Obama's birthplace. I fully accept that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii in August 1961.

    I'm just pointing out an interesting fact of history that he would likely not have been born in Florida in 1961and if he were, it would be a story unto itself how that came about. For in 1961 it was not legal in Florida or 21 other backward states for Obama's white mother and African father to be married or have any kind of intimate relationship.

    Which, brings me to the dirty little secret not taught in American History and perhaps not known by many young people these days about the extent of our "apartheid" in the United States. Oh, they may have knowledge of segregation and think it was about eating in restaurants, sitting on buses and going to school but it was more insidious than that. It was about laws forbidding people like Obama's parents from living with the person they loved because they were of different races.

    Of course those laws were eventually, belatedly, determined to be unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court on June 12, 1967 in the Loving versus Virginia case.

    Here, for those of you who slept thru American History, or who were denied this valuable piece of history that was perhaps left out of the school curriculum is the story:

    In 1958, two residents of Virginia, Mildred Jeter, a black woman, and Richard Loving, a white man, were married in the DC because Virginia law forbade whites and blacks from marrying. When they went back home they were sentenced to a year in jail, or they could leave the state and not come back for 25 years. They appealed this verdict all the way to the U.S. Supreme court where as they say, the rest is history. Except that very few Americans know this history.

    My wife and I benefited from this history and it irritates me that this forgotten civil rights case does not get recognition. It may be out of national embarrassment that we try to forget it but I would like to see June 12, noted annually as "Loving Day."

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    With Obama, our first mixed race president (sorry, but to call him 'black' is a submission to the 'one-drop rule' of the Jim Crow days) it seems a good time to acknowledge that we have moved beyond the legal racism of the time of his birth, which could not have been in Florida.
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    Post by Jason B. Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:14 pm

    Everybody knows he's from Afghanistan, by way of Saudi Arabia.

    His uncles were Huey Newton and Saddam Hussein and his cousins were Osama bin Laden and Tupac Shakur. He went to school with David Koresh and Timothy McVeigh, lost his virginity to Angela Davis and once had a three way with OJ and Nicole. Later he privately tutored the kids that shot up Columbine, had a great time at Woodstock '99, and just happened to be sleep in late on the day of the Virginia Tech massacre!

    At least that's what I read in Teaparty Weekly.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:23 pm

    Jason B. wrote:Everybody knows he's from Afghanistan, by way of Saudi Arabia.

    His uncles were Huey Newton and Saddam Hussein and his cousins were Osama bin Laden and Tupac Shakur. He went to school with David Koresh and Timothy McVeigh, lost his virginity to Angela Davis and once had a three way with OJ and Nicole. Later he privately tutored the kids that shot up Columbine, had a great time at Woodstock '99, and just happened to be sleep in late on the day of the Virginia Tech massacre!

    At least that's what I read in Teaparty Weekly.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:51 pm

    Jason B. wrote:Everybody knows he's from Afghanistan, by way of Saudi Arabia.

    His uncles were Huey Newton and Saddam Hussein and his cousins were Osama bin Laden and Tupac Shakur. He went to school with David Koresh and Timothy McVeigh, lost his virginity to Angela Davis and once had a three way with OJ and Nicole. Later he privately tutored the kids that shot up Columbine, had a great time at Woodstock '99, and just happened to be sleep in late on the day of the Virginia Tech massacre!

    At least that's what I read in Teaparty Weekly.

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    Post by RedBedroom Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:01 pm

    Shale wrote:Barack Obama Was Not Born in Florida
    by Shale Stone
    June 2, 2011

    No, this is not a part of those conspiracy fools challenge to Obama's birthplace. I fully accept that he was born in Honolulu, Hawaii in August 1961.

    I'm just pointing out an interesting fact of history that he would likely not have been born in Florida in 1961and if he were, it would be a story unto itself how that came about. For in 1961 it was not legal in Florida or 21 other backward states for Obama's white mother and African father to be married or have any kind of intimate relationship.

    Which, brings me to the dirty little secret not taught in American History and perhaps not known by many young people these days about the extent of our "apartheid" in the United States. Oh, they may have knowledge of segregation and think it was about eating in restaurants, sitting on buses and going to school but it was more insidious than that. It was about laws forbidding people like Obama's parents from living with the person they loved because they were of different races.

    Of course those laws were eventually, belatedly, determined to be unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court on June 12, 1967 in the Loving versus Virginia case.

    Here, for those of you who slept thru American History, or who were denied this valuable piece of history that was perhaps left out of the school curriculum is the story:

    In 1958, two residents of Virginia, Mildred Jeter, a black woman, and Richard Loving, a white man, were married in the DC because Virginia law forbade whites and blacks from marrying. When they went back home they were sentenced to a year in jail, or they could leave the state and not come back for 25 years. They appealed this verdict all the way to the U.S. Supreme court where as they say, the rest is history. Except that very few Americans know this history.

    My wife and I benefited from this history and it irritates me that this forgotten civil rights case does not get recognition. It may be out of national embarrassment that we try to forget it but I would like to see June 12, noted annually as "Loving Day."

    Barack Obama Was Not Born in Florida Robbrenda95

    With Obama, our first mixed race president (sorry, but to call him 'black' is a submission to the 'one-drop rule' of the Jim Crow days) it seems a good time to acknowledge that we have moved beyond the legal racism of the time of his birth, which could not have been in Florida.

    Very well written, Shale. Thank you for sharing.
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    Post by Hyacinth Girl Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:25 am

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    Post by Forgiveness Man Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:48 am

    Hyacinth Girl wrote:Barack Obama Was Not Born in Florida Obama

    I've seen that photo. It'd be funny if it had any truth to it but since our military (not Obama) got Osama AFTER the birth certificate was released, it's not really all that funny. In the end, it comes off to be as silly as those people who were whining about the certificate in the first place. It's like a bunch of children fighting back and forth while the country falls apart. FORGIVENESS MAN It'd be funnier to watch if the stakes were a lot lower. Wink
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    Post by Hyacinth Girl Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:14 am

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    Hyacinth Girl wrote:Barack Obama Was Not Born in Florida Obama

    I've seen that photo. It'd be funny if it had any truth to it but since our military (not Obama) got Osama AFTER the birth certificate was released, it's not really all that funny. In the end, it comes off to be as silly as those people who were whining about the certificate in the first place. It's like a bunch of children fighting back and forth while the country falls apart. FORGIVENESS MAN It'd be funnier to watch if the stakes were a lot lower. Wink

    Yeah, I've thought the whole birth certificate thing was B.S. all around, but the photo cracked me up, even though I wasn't one of the ones who voted Obama into office. All I can say is now that Bin Laden's dead, Obama just won the 2012 election, despite the fact that the military took him out and not Obama himself. The photo just proves the fanatical thinking of those out there who think he's so freakin' great, but it was funny, looking at it from their standpoint.
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    Post by Shale Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:22 am

    Hyacinth Girl wrote: ... All I can say is now that Bin Laden's dead, Obama just won the 2012 election, despite the fact that the military took him out and not Obama himself...
    Actually, President Barack Obama is the Commander In Chief of the U.S. military. That was to ensure that a civilian was in charge of the military. As President Truman said "The Buck Stops Here." Ask General MacArthur who the man?
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    Post by Hyacinth Girl Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:27 am

    Shale wrote:
    Hyacinth Girl wrote: ... All I can say is now that Bin Laden's dead, Obama just won the 2012 election, despite the fact that the military took him out and not Obama himself...
    Actually, President Barack Obama is the Commander In Chief of the U.S. military. That was to ensure that a civilian was in charge of the military. As President Truman said "The Buck Stops Here." Ask General MacArthur who the man?

    True, and by extension, he'll be solely credited with doing the deed as if he himself pulled the trigger. And while I'm glad Bin Laden's gone, I'm still voting for Ferris Bueller as a write-in, in the 2012 election.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:37 am

    Hyacinth Girl wrote:Yeah, I've thought the whole birth certificate thing was B.S. all around, but the photo cracked me up, even though I wasn't one of the ones who voted Obama into office. All I can say is now that Bin Laden's dead, Obama just won the 2012 election, despite the fact that the military took him out and not Obama himself. The photo just proves the fanatical thinking of those out there who think he's so freakin' great, but it was funny, looking at it from their standpoint.

    I disagree. I think that's totally baseless and wishful thinking on the part of liberals. His bump from that is already fading and by the time the election comes, America will have forgotten. America has short term memory and if he reminds them, he'll look bad. Obama didn't get Osama, even if he'll get the credit for it. But at the end of the day, I think it might work against him because now he's got the burden of explaining to an anti-war public why we're still over there. Everything he ran on in 08 is gone. He may still squeak it out but I think people forget just how little this guy has to stand on. Last time he had everything going for him. This time, he's just another politician.

    I agree it proves the fanatical thinking of his supporters. The problem is that the average American is still struggling through a tough economy, and we're getting tired of hearing this president point the finger at just about everybody but himself. If he tries to run against Bush again, I think he'll look bad. There will always be extremists who'd support even Bin Laden himself if he had a D next to his name and chanted the liberal mantra. But I think the average American is looking for more. The novelty of Obama's slowly, but surely, wearing off.

    IMO, the only way Obama's gonna win in 2012 is if the GOP nominates another loser. Looking back at recent history, the strength of the GOP candidate seems to dictate who wins. Losers like Bush Sr., Dole, and McCain lose elections. Stronger candidates like Reagan and even Bush Jr win. If the GOP doesn't blow it, I think Obama's in real trouble. (But I never underestimate the ability of that party to blow it.) The reality of how bad a shape the country's still gonna be in just isn't going to go away by chanting that somebody else is responsible.
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    Post by Hyacinth Girl Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:27 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:
    Hyacinth Girl wrote:Yeah, I've thought the whole birth certificate thing was B.S. all around, but the photo cracked me up, even though I wasn't one of the ones who voted Obama into office. All I can say is now that Bin Laden's dead, Obama just won the 2012 election, despite the fact that the military took him out and not Obama himself. The photo just proves the fanatical thinking of those out there who think he's so freakin' great, but it was funny, looking at it from their standpoint.

    I disagree. I think that's totally baseless and wishful thinking on the part of liberals. His bump from that is already fading and by the time the election comes, America will have forgotten. America has short term memory and if he reminds them, he'll look bad. Obama didn't get Osama, even if he'll get the credit for it. But at the end of the day, I think it might work against him because now he's got the burden of explaining to an anti-war public why we're still over there. Everything he ran on in 08 is gone. He may still squeak it out but I think people forget just how little this guy has to stand on. Last time he had everything going for him. This time, he's just another politician.

    I agree it proves the fanatical thinking of his supporters. The problem is that the average American is still struggling through a tough economy, and we're getting tired of hearing this president point the finger at just about everybody but himself. If he tries to run against Bush again, I think he'll look bad. There will always be extremists who'd support even Bin Laden himself if he had a D next to his name and chanted the liberal mantra. But I think the average American is looking for more. The novelty of Obama's slowly, but surely, wearing off.

    IMO, the only way Obama's gonna win in 2012 is if the GOP nominates another loser. Looking back at recent history, the strength of the GOP candidate seems to dictate who wins. Losers like Bush Sr., Dole, and McCain lose elections. Stronger candidates like Reagan and even Bush Jr win. If the GOP doesn't blow it, I think Obama's in real trouble. (But I never underestimate the ability of that party to blow it.) The reality of how bad a shape the country's still gonna be in just isn't going to go away by chanting that somebody else is responsible.

    I think everything hinges upon who's voting and what their mindset is at the time, and I don't necessarily mean just the public, but those in the higher eschelons of the lovely Electoral College system we have in place. Candidates certainly play a large role, but there, too, if you have slim-pickin's, it becomes the evil of two lessers, rather than the lesser of two evils.

    Personally, I think we should do away with the Electoral system and just go by popular vote on everything--stuff all the ballots in a box and whoever gets the most votes by the people, wins--none of this "well, let's weigh this state more by points" crap.

    Also since I'm on a roll, now, I might as well say that I think too, that there should be term limits on all levels of government. If the highest office, that being President has a term limit, then why shouldn't Senators and other Congressional Representatives/Justice system judges be limited also? Seems a little bit of a double standard, to me, and quite frankly, the longer a person stays in office, the more apt they are to use it to control and push their own agenda over time. The Strom Thurmonds and Ted Kennedys of the world, who've made lifelong careers out of hogging a government seat are prime examples. Boot 'em all out after a few years and get some fresh meat in there.
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    Post by CeCe Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:54 pm

    Hyacinth Girl wrote:

    Personally, I think we should do away with the Electoral system and just go by popular vote on everything--stuff all the ballots in a box and whoever gets the most votes by the people, wins--none of this "well, let's weigh this state more by points" crap.

    Also since I'm on a roll, now, I might as well say that I think too, that there should be term limits on all levels of government. If the highest office, that being President has a term limit, then why shouldn't Senators and other Congressional Representatives/Justice system judges be limited also? Seems a little bit of a double standard, to me, and quite frankly, the longer a person stays in office, the more apt they are to use it to control and push their own agenda over time. The Strom Thurmonds and Ted Kennedys of the world, who've made lifelong careers out of hogging a government seat are prime examples. Boot 'em all out after a few years and get some fresh meat in there.

    Well this I certainly agree with. Career politicians don't do us any good. They get too comfortable or corrupt & should be cycled out after a couple terms. Sometimes I wonder how some of these people keep getting re-elected like that that bigoted old bat Virginia Foxx, but I think it's just laziness on the part of the voters. They just keep voting for the same old same old or don't want to be inconvenienced by having to check more than 1 box, punch a few squares or tap a few buttons.

    I agree about the electoral college too. Had it been done by popular vote we might have avoided some of the problems we have now. And it would make them have to campaign in the states they now neglect because they're focused on only a handful of states with those precious votes. The way it's set up now, there are some states that might as well not vote for a president at all.


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    Post by Hyacinth Girl Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:07 pm

    CeCe wrote:

    Well this I certainly agree with. Career politicians don't do us any good. They get too comfortable or corrupt & should be cycled out after a couple terms. Sometimes I wonder how some of these people keep getting re-elected like that that bigoted old bat Virginia Foxx, but I think it's just laziness on the part of the voters. They just keep voting for the same old same old or don't want to be inconvenienced by having to check more than 1 box, punch a few squares or tap a few buttons.

    I agree about the electoral college too. Had it been done by popular vote we might have avoided some of the problems we have now. And it would make them have to campaign in the states they now neglect because they're focused on only a handful of states with those precious votes. The way it's set up now, there are some states that might as well not vote for a president at all.



    That's right--and to think we learn in grammar school that our votes do count!

    I think partly these people stay in office out of the public's complacency and fear of change; it's like saying "Yes, we know what we currently have, sucks, but what if we get something far worse? At least we know how to work with the present suckiness"--It's the old "Devil you know, is better than the one you don't" mindset.

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