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    Which solves more problems than it creates: religion or science?

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    Post by Chris Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:15 am

    What do you think has been more problematic in recent years/decades: science or religion?
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    Post by CeCe Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:25 am

    Chris wrote:What do you think has been more problematic in recent years/decades: science or religion?


    More problematic? Religion. If people could apply it to their own lives there wouldn't be a problem. But they insist on thrusting their beliefs on everyone else to the point of attempting to make them into the law. Then it becomes problematic. Don't believe in abortion? Don't have one. Don't believe in gay marriage? Marry someone of the opposite gender. Don't believe in "gambling"? Don't buy a lottery ticket. (and they might want to cancel that church raffle)

    But leave everyone else the hell alone.

    Science on the other hand has cured disease & eased suffering, rather than cause it.
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    Post by Supernova Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:35 am

    Of course I wouldn't be so sure that science wasn't responsible for a lot of the problems they solved. How do we REALLY know where all the diseases are coming from? They'd never admit to being responsible for unleashing epidemics on the public if they were.
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    Post by Marc™ Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:49 am

    Definitely religion.
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    Post by Shale Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:51 am

    CeCe wrote:
    Chris wrote:What do you think has been more problematic in recent years/decades: science or religion?


    More problematic? Religion. If people could apply it to their own lives there wouldn't be a problem. But they insist on thrusting their beliefs on everyone else to the point of attempting to make them into the law. Then it becomes problematic. Don't believe in abortion? Don't have one. Don't believe in gay marriage? Marry someone of the opposite gender. Don't believe in "gambling"? Don't buy a lottery ticket. (and they might want to cancel that church raffle)

    But leave everyone else the hell alone.

    Science on the other hand has cured disease & eased suffering, rather than cause it.
    co-signs That pretty much says it.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Apr 19, 2011 11:59 am

    Science easily. Science could solve a lot of problems but lately, there's so much junk science that it's ended up just standing in it's own way.

    Besides, most of the harm religion has "done" is really just people's own selfishness taking control. The "religion has done all this harm" argument is tired and fallacious.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:27 pm

    Chris wrote:What do you think has been more problematic in recent years/decades: science or religion?

    Please! Religion and for much longer than recently. To deny it is laughable.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Tue Apr 19, 2011 1:29 pm

    Supernova wrote:Of course I wouldn't be so sure that science wasn't responsible for a lot of the problems they solved. How do we REALLY know where all the diseases are coming from? They'd never admit to being responsible for unleashing epidemics on the public if they were.

    What - like firemen starting fires and policemen robbing banks so they can save the day?
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    Post by Supernova Tue Apr 19, 2011 2:22 pm

    alan smithee wrote:
    Supernova wrote:Of course I wouldn't be so sure that science wasn't responsible for a lot of the problems they solved. How do we REALLY know where all the diseases are coming from? They'd never admit to being responsible for unleashing epidemics on the public if they were.

    What - like firemen starting fires and policemen robbing banks so they can save the day?


    Well to quote Vincent Price, it's unconventional but not impossible. If you think about it, it is job security, they make sure there's always diseases needing curing and they're in business for life.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Apr 19, 2011 5:02 pm

    alan smithee wrote:
    Chris wrote:What do you think has been more problematic in recent years/decades: science or religion?

    Please! Religion and for much longer than recently. To deny it is laughable.

    To deny it is to think about the entire issue and see that religion hasn't done squat. People just use religion as one of many excuses to do what they want at the expense of other people. To act like religion is the actual motivation is what is laughable.
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    Post by (Oh!) Rob Petrie Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:39 pm

    They have both caused issues.

    Science,on its on, is a great thing; but when it's filtered through organizations like the FDA, it just causes more problems.

    Religion, on its on, doesn't cause war; however people are ignorant and use it to mask their bigotry and then justify pointless territorial war.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:11 pm

    Religion.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:38 pm

    Supernova wrote:
    alan smithee wrote:

    What - like firemen starting fires and policemen robbing banks so they can save the day?


    Well to quote Vincent Price, it's unconventional but not impossible. If you think about it, it is job security, they make sure there's always diseases needing curing and they're in business for life.

    Seriously? blank stare @ you
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    Post by Impact Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:50 pm

    Both create more questions than they answer. Both expand your consciousness allowing for greater perception. An example is a telescope looking into space, as bigger and bigger telescopes are used we become aware of what we couldn't see before, requiring even bigger telescopes. This process can go on forever.

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