Should the 'Ten Commandments' be posted in public schools?

Should 'Ten Commandments' should be posted in public schools?

Alan Smithee wrote:Of course it would. It would be more useful to post the Bill of Rights.

Hyacinth Girl wrote:...
Seems pretty harmless and a no-brainer to me--respect your parents, don't be jealous, a liar, thief or murderer, and don't let things in life, whatever that may be, become "gods" for you, so that you focus on that over what actually matters. Doesn't seem like too difficult a reminder to basically watch your thoughts and actions, and be a decent person.

BTW, This is your interpretation, not what ALL those ten commandments said. We should all worship YOUR exclusive god? That's what it said and there are others who would insist on it.

But oh---now all the aetheists will be offended if that happens, because "God" was mentioned, and we're all supposed to embrace diversity, no matter how diverse it gets, to the point where it's actually more acceptable to "be diverse" than to have the viewpoint of one who believes in God.

So yeah, I think the 10 Commandments should be posted right up there with everything else they post--cheerleading tryouts, student Gay/Lesbian club meeting, chess club, football,--but it'll never happen.

Opa Shale wrote:

Let's hope it never happens. School clubs, cheerleading and sports are elective school functions open to everyone who wishes to participate. Religious edicts are from an exclusive belief system.

This is exactly why they should NOT be posted in the public venue in a secular society (paid for in part by all those Atheist, Agnostic, Buddhist and other non-believer taxes). Of course YOU have no problem with it, YOU believe in all that shit, like some old man in the sky, vindictive, meddlesome, Zeus-like god throwing lightning bolts down on any non-believer.

You are protected by the US Constitution to believe what you want and to practice that belief - on your own time and your own dime. Spare us the persecution because YOUR religious views are not allowed to be pushed onto the population at large.

Hyacinth Girl wrote:


BINGO! And there it is--see? It's ok and acceptable for people (not necessarily you, but in general) to go around promoting non-belief, free love-and let's-have-sex-with anyone-and-everyone views, legalizing drugs like marijuana, and hey, all sorts of other feel-good stuff, yet it's not ok for me to toss my beliefs/views out there, as a Believer. Ah, I knew it was only a matter of mere moments before the claws would come out! LOL

I'm not quite sure how you see being nice to your parents, not killing, stealing, lying or cheating on your--ooooh, wait for it, wait for it-- the diversity---"Life Partner/Significant Other", to be persecution. Seems to me that the Commandments are basically rules for conducting oneself in a morally and socially upright manner.

Well, everyone's entitled to live their lives the way they see fit, but whether or not you (choose to) believe in God, we're all gonna answer to Him someday, so I'd rather get my ducks in order before it's my turn.

Hyacinth Girl wrote: BINGO! And there it is--see? It's ok and acceptable for people (not necessarily you, but in general) to go around promoting non-belief, free love-and let's-have-sex-with anyone-and-everyone views, legalizing drugs like marijuana, and hey, all sorts of other feel-good stuff, yet it's not ok for me to toss my beliefs/views out there, as a Believer. Ah, I knew it was only a matter of mere moments before the claws would come out! LOL

I'm not quite sure how you see being nice to your parents, not killing, stealing, lying or cheating on your--ooooh, wait for it, wait for it-- the diversity---"Life Partner/Significant Other", to be persecution. Seems to me that the Commandments are basically rules for conducting oneself in a morally and socially upright manner.

Well, everyone's entitled to live their lives the way they see fit, but whether or not you (choose to) believe in God, we're all gonna answer to Him someday, so I'd rather get my ducks in order before it's my turn.

Supernova wrote:


Yeah I don't get this either, no killing, no stealing, these are laws, why is teaching people to obey the laws suddenly a narrow minded thing to do?

Opa Shale wrote:

In proselytizing your religious fanaticism, did you even read what I wrote?

"You are protected by the US Constitution to believe what you want and to practice that belief - on your own time and your own dime. Spare us the persecution because YOUR religious views are not allowed to be pushed onto the population at large."

How can I make it any more clear? Yes, I promote my free-luv, anti-religion, alternative sexuality views, just as you are promoting ancient religious mumbo-jumbo - ON A FORUM BOARD. I am not advocating posting my views in a public school filled with ppl from diverse belief systems, as should you. Unless of course you feel it is right to push your particular (and I might add not universally accepted) religious views on others.

Hyacinth Girl wrote: So a forum board is no less public than a public school?? Again, people can believe what they want, and do what they want, but in my opinion, for Jesus Christ to have been the only person to have fulfilled 450 of the Messianic prophecies in the Bible, and also be the only "god" who's name is used as a swear-word (you don't hear people going around saying "Oh Buddah" or "Oh Allah" when they're pissed)--then it seems to me that there's something not to be ignored about God/His existence.

I'd hate to be some people on Judgement Day--don't say we Believers didn't warn 'ya! Mumbo-jumbo to some, maybe, but in the end, there are no aetheists in Hell, 'cause if someone ends up there, then they'll sure believe there was a God at that point.

Opa Shale wrote:
Or the five Buddhist Precepts:

I undertake to observe the rule
to abstain from taking life
to abstain from taking what is not given
to abstain from false speech
to abstain from sensuous misconduct
to abstain from intoxicants as tending to cloud the mind

Since most Jews & Christians violate the ten, it would be more efficient to have just five to rationalize.

Opa Shale wrote:

If I wrote what I was thinking right now Chris would have to kick me off this board. But I will say, without directing it at you "Fucking unbelievable!"

You are right about one thing, it was the Magi who gave Jesus his name.

It happened because the Magi were very tall and the ppl in Bethlehem were short, so their doorways were about 6 feet high. When the black Magus started to enter the stable, he smacked the shit out of his head on the doorframe and said "JESUS CHRIST!! THAT HURT." Mary looked up at him and said, "You know that is better than Bernard."

Hyacinth Girl wrote: ... you're arrogant, totally in love with yourself, and still singing "We Shall Overcome". (BTW, 1969 ended at 12am on January 1st, 1970--get over it by now.)

Hyacinth Girl wrote: NyStyle--Yes, Marijuana is a drug, and one that falls into the category of "substance abuse". It's part of a panel of 9 drug classes that we run on urines where I work in the laboratory.

Hyacinth Girl wrote:Shale--The point I'm getting at is that aetheists/non-believers sure have no problem telling us that do believe, what a bunch of shit they think our beliefs are and how tired they are of hearing our testimony. Well--tit for tat; it's a two way street and did it ever occur to that group of people, that perhaps we feel the same way about them, and we're think that belief system is a crock and we're tired of all their blah-blah too??

It'll be a two-way street when the non-believers want to include into the curriculum the facts of how Christianity is unsupportable and has a wretched history of persecuting non-believers. So far that is not the case (but watch those comparitive religion classes - real Church history is not pleasant) The Christians want to include their belief system in the curriculum as fact and prosyletize their message. The public schools are not the place for religion to be taught - that is why they have tax-exempt churches
(that are not supposed to be involved in politics )

Hyacinth Girl wrote:Perhaps we should post the Commandments in schools but put a disclaimer on them to the effect of "For those of you who don't believe in God, kindly disregard the first 4 or so, but everyone take note of 5-10." There--that about covers all the diversity.

It'll be a two-way street when the non-believers want to include into the curriculum the facts of how Christianity is unsupportable and has a wretched history of persecuting non-believers. So far that is not the case (but watch those comparitive religion classes - real Church history is not pleasant) The Christians want to include their belief system in the curriculum as fact and prosyletize their message. The public schools are not the place for religion to be taught - that is why they have tax-exempt churches
(that are not supposed to be involved in politics )

wants2laugh wrote:
Shale-- You have mentioned Budhism several times. What would be the harm in having an elective class which talks of ALL the worlds religions, and discusses their themes, beliefs, customs, norms, and rituals? Why would THAT be a bad thing? Would that be a way for children to understand the world better and even explore their own idea of religion?

Supernova wrote:I remember somebody saying 20 years ago you were more likely to see the Ten Commandments in a school than just about anywhere else...and somebody said the day they stopped teaching them in school, they would be too busy fighting the crime in school for anything else...that certainly seems to have been a self fulfilling prophecy.