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    Would legalizing marijuana help the economy?

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    Post by Chris Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:17 am

    Jobs for growers. Jobs for sellers. Jobs for regulators. Taxes for government. Cheaper prices for people currently paying street value (hence more expendable income). Less money spent on enforcement.

    What do you think?
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    Post by CeCe Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:01 am

    Maybe. More than anything it would clear the jails of people who shouldn't be there in the first place. They could be working like many of them were before being arrested so that would help too. It would certainly alleviate the the pointless suffering of a lot of people.
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    Post by Shale Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:21 am

    CeCe wrote:Maybe. More than anything it would clear the jails of people who shouldn't be there in the first place. They could be working like many of them were before being arrested so that would help too. It would certainly alleviate the the pointless suffering of a lot of people.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:52 am

    It ain't gonna play THAT big of a role in helping the economy, but they should go ahead and do it.
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    Post by Tony Marino Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:44 am

    Sure why not?
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    Post by Alan Smithee Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:35 pm

    Probably not but at least we wouldn't care about it then. big grin
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:48 pm

    Nah. People just wanna get high. FORGIVENESS MAN
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    Post by Shale Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:46 pm

    Alan Smithee wrote:Probably not but at least we wouldn't care about it then. big grin

    "Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope."—Freewheelin' Franklin
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    Post by Alan Smithee Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:16 pm

    "Reality is a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs." ~Lily Tomlin

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    Post by Shale Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:14 pm

    Alan Smithee wrote:"Reality is a crutch for people who can't cope with drugs." ~Lily Tomlin
    Y'know she was on NCIS tonite, playing McGee's gramma. I remember when we were so young and her character alluded back to those times in the early '70s
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    Post by Alan Smithee Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:57 pm

    Would legalizing marijuana help the economy?
    Don't hold your breath.

    Federal prosecutors have launched a crackdown on pot dispensaries in California, warning the stores that they must shut down in 45 days or face criminal charges and confiscation of their property even if they are operating legally under the state's 15-year-old medical marijuana law.

    In an escalation of the ongoing conflict between the U.S. government and the nation's burgeoning medical marijuana industry, at least 16 pot shops or their landlords received letters this week notifying them that they are violating federal drug laws, even though medical marijuana is legal in California. The state's four U.S. attorneys are scheduled to announce a broader crackdown at a Friday news conference.

    Their offices refused to confirm the closure orders. The Associated Press obtained copies of the letters that a prosecutor sent to 12 San Diego dispensaries. They state that federal law "takes precedence over state law and applies regardless of the particular uses for which a dispensary is selling and distributing marijuana."

    "Under United States law, a dispensary's operations involving sales and distribution of marijuana are illegal and subject to criminal prosecution and civil enforcement actions," letters signed by U.S. Attorney Laura Duffy in San Diego read. "Real and personal property involved in such operations are subject to seizure by and forfeiture to the United States ... regardless of the purported purpose of the dispensary."

    The move comes a little more than two months after the Obama administration toughened its stand on medical marijuana following a two-year period during which federal officials had indicated they would not move aggressively against dispensaries in compliance with laws in the 16 states where pot is legal for people with doctors' recommendations.

    The Department of Justice issued a policy memo to federal prosecutors in late June stating that marijuana dispensaries and licensed growers in states with medical marijuana laws could face prosecution for violating federal drug and money-laundering laws. The effort to shutter California dispensaries appears to be the most far-reaching effort so far to put that guidance into action.

    "This really shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. The administration is simply making good on multiple threats issued since President Obama took office," Kevin Sabet, a former adviser to the president's drug czar who is a fellow at the University of Pennsylvania's Center for Substance Abuse Solutions. "The challenge is to balance the scarcity of law enforcement resources and the sanctity of this country's medication approval process. It seems like the administration is simply making good on multiple statements made previously to appropriately strike that balance."

    Greg Anton, a lawyer who represents the Marin Alliance for Medical Marijuana, said the 14-year-old dispensary's landlord received an "extremely threatening" letter Wednesday invoking a federal law that imposes additional penalties for selling drugs within 1,000 feet of schools, parks and playgrounds.

    The landlord was ordered to evict the pot club or risk imprisonment, plus forfeiture of the property and all the rent he has collected while the dispensary has been in business, Anton said.

    The Marin Alliance's founder "has been paying state and federal taxes for 14 years, and they have cashed all the checks," he said. "All I hear from Obama is whining about his budget, but he has money to do this which will actually reduce revenues."

    Kris Hermes, a spokesman for the medical marijuana advocacy group Americans for Safe Access, said the warnings are part of what appears to be an attempt by the Obama administration to curb medical marijuana on multiple fronts and through multiple agencies. A series of dispensary raids in Montana, for example, involved agents from not only the FBI and U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency, but the Internal Revenue Service and Environmental Protection Agency.

    Going after property owners is not a new tactic, though, Hermes said. Five years ago, the Department of Justice under President George Bush made similar threats to about 300 Los Angeles-area landlords who were renting space to medical marijuana outlets, some of whom were eventually evicted or closed their doors voluntarily, he said.

    "It did have an impact. However, the federal government never acted on its threats, never prosecuted anybody, never even went to court to begin prosecutions," Hermes said. "By and large they were empty threats, but they relied on them and the cost of postage to shut down as many facilities as they could without having to engage in criminal enforcement activity."

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    Post by Shale Thu Oct 06, 2011 8:23 pm

    And to think that I voted for a guy (who does have influence over the inJustice Department) and promised me CHANGE.

    WHERE'S THE CHANGE???
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    Post by Alan Smithee Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:13 pm

    Opa Shale wrote:And to think that I voted for a guy (who does have influence over the inJustice Department) and promised me CHANGE.

    WHERE'S THE CHANGE???

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