I hadn't heard that but yeah - I wasn't paying much attention to SOC during the Kish debates - there wasn't too much Todd and there was WAY to much Gex, so I was barely watching OLTL and not paying that much attention to the boards. I just never got into Kish. They were brought on at a time when I was hating so much of OLTL that unless Todd was on, I didn't bother watching and when he was, I paid no attention to anyone other than him. It was nothing against Kish - I just had no interest in anything to with LPD and the newbies who were on, because they weren't connected to the one storyline I was watching at the time.