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| Subject: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:02 am | |
| I'm sure everyone has heard that Ravi was convicted of all counts against him, and is looking at ten years in prison and possible deportment. Many think that that punishment is too severe and that he shouldn't have to serve more than a year or two. What do you think? | |
| | | Forgiveness Man …is a Chamber Royal.
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| Subject: Re: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:54 am | |
| Eh, it's probably a bit more severe than he deserves. It's a biased media pressure result. No sympathy for the bully but I honestly don't think stopping bullying is a goal in this entire thing at all. | |
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| Subject: Re: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:01 pm | |
| No. Ten years is ridiculous because Tyler Clementi needs to shoulder some responsibility for his own suicide. He jumped off that bridge on his own accord. No one pushed him. No one told him to do it. | |
| | | Suzi …is a Power Member.
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| Subject: Re: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:43 pm | |
| He should get what ever the law allows, then deportation when his sentence is served. Really why allow that sort of person to stay in the country that he helped mess up? I see what he did as a form of bullying. | |
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| Subject: Re: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:52 pm | |
| He wasn't charged in connection with Tyler Clementi's suicide. Would he have been charged at all if T.C. hadn't killed himself? Good chance he wouldn't have been. - Quote :
- THE VERDICT BREAKDOWN
Here are all the counts against Dharun Ravi and a breakdown of the decisions rendered today in the Rutgers webcam spying trial in New Brunswick. Each verdict will be posted here as soon as possible, so please refresh the page frequently. MORE RAVI TRIAL COVERAGE:
• Dharun Ravi found guilty in Rutgers webcam spying trial
• Juror in Dharun Ravi webcam trial speaks out
• React to the Dharun Ravi verdict in the webcam spying case
• O'Brien: Ravi's dorm mates who did not object to webcam spying should search their hearts
COUNT 1 4th Degree Invasion of Privacy, related to Tyler Clementi: GUILTY 4th Degree Invasion of Privacy, related to Clementi's guest, M.B.: GUILTY (Observed Clementi/M.B. in sexual contact without their consent on Sept. 19)
If Guilty, jury proceeds to count 2; if Not Guilty, jury skips count 2 and proceeds to count 3
COUNT 2 3rd Degree Bias Intimidation (For 4th Degree Invasion of Privacy charge on Sept. 19)
• Invasion of Privacy with the purpose to intimidate Tyler Clementi because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy with the purpose to intimidate M.B. because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause Tyler Clementi to be intimidated because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause M.B. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, under circumstances that caused Tyler Clementi to be intimidated, and considering the manner in which the offense was committed, Clementi reasonably believed that he was selected to be the target of the offense because of sexual orientation: GUILTY
COUNT 3 3rd Degree Invasion of Privacy, related to Tyler Clementi: GUILTY 3rd Degree Invasion of Privacy, related to M.B.: GUILTY (Activated webcam so other people could view Clementi/M.B. in sexual contact on Sept 19.)
If Guilty, jury proceeds to count 4; if Not Guilty, jury skips count 4 and proceeds to count 5
COUNT 4 2nd Degree Bias Intimidation (For 3rd Degree Invasion of Privacy charge on Sept. 19)
• Invasion of Privacy, with the purpose to intimidate Tyler Clementi because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, with the purpose to intimidate M.B. because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause Tyler Clementi to be intimidated because of sexual orientation: GUILTY
• Invasion of Privacy, knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause M.B. to be intimidated, because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, under circumstances that caused Tyler Clementi to be intimidated, and considering the manner in which the offense was committed, Clementi reasonably believed that he was selected to be the target of the offense because of sexual orientation: GUILTY
COUNT 5 4th Degree Attempted Invasion of Privacy, related to Tyler Clementi: GUILTY 4th Degree Attempted Invasion of Privacy, related to M.B.: GUILTY (Tried to observe Clementi/M.B. in sexual contact without their consent on Sept. 21)
If Guilty, jury proceeds to count 6; if Not Guilty, jury skips count 6 and proceeds to count 7
COUNT 6 3rd Degree Bias Intimidation (For 4th Degree Invasion of Privacy charge on Sept. 21)
• Invasion of Privacy, with the purpose to intimidate Tyler Clementi because of sexual orientation: GUILTY
• Invasion of Privacy, with the purpose to intimidate M.B. because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause Tyler Clementi to be intimated because of sexual orientation: GUILTY
• Invasion of Privacy, knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause M.B. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, under circumstances that caused Tyler Clementi to be intimidated, and considering the manner in which the offense was committed, Clementi reasonably believed that he was selected to be the target of the offense because of sexual orientation: GUILTY
COUNT 7 3rd Degree Attempted Invasion of Privacy, related to Tyler Clementi: GUILTY 3rd Degree Attempted Invasion of Privacy, related to M.B.: GUILTY (Tried to show Clementi/M.B. in sexual contact to other people on Sept. 21)
If Guilty, jury proceeds to count 8; if Not Guilty, jury skips count 8 and proceeds to count 9
COUNT 8 2nd Degree Bias Intimidation (For 3rd Degree Attempted Invasion of Privacy charge on Sept. 21)
• Invasion of Privacy, with the purpose to intimidate Tyler Clementi because of sexual orientation: GUILTY
• Invasion of Privacy, with the purpose to intimidate M.B. because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause Tyler Clementi to be intimidated because of sexual orientation: GUILTY
• Invasion of Privacy, knowing that the conduct constituting invasion of privacy would cause M.B. to be intimidated because of sexual orientation: ACQUITTED
• Invasion of Privacy, under circumstances that caused Tyler Clementi to be intimidated, and considering the manner in which the offense was committed, Clementi reasonably believed that he was selected to be the target of the offense because of sexual orientation: GUILTY
COUNT 9 4th Degree Tampering with Physical Evidence: GUILTY (Deleted tweets relevant to police investigation)
COUNT 10 4th Degree Tampering with Physical Evidence: GUILTY (Wrote and posted a false tweet)
COUNT 11 3rd Degree Hindering Apprehension or Prosecution: GUILTY (Destroyed evidence relevant to investigation)
COUNT 12 3rd Degree Hindering Apprehension or Prosecution: GUILTY (Prevented a witness from providing testimony)
COUNT 13 3rd Degree Hindering Apprehension or Prosecution: GUILTY (Lied to police)
COUNT 14 3rd Degree Witness Tampering: GUILTY (Tried to influence what Molly Wei told police)
COUNT 15 4th Degree Tampering with Physical Evidence: GUILTY (Deleted text messages sent to and received from witnesses) http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/03/ravi_webcam_trial_verdict.html | |
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| Subject: Re: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:03 pm | |
| I don't even think it warrants a prison sentence...or rather not a lengthy one. 6 months at best. If you ask me, he should be fined into the poor house and have community service to hell and back. Seems they're trying to make a political "example" out of this kid. | |
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| Subject: Re: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:59 pm | |
| - GrayWolf wrote:
- I don't even think it warrants a prison sentence...or rather not a lengthy one. 6 months at best. If you ask me, he should be fined into the poor house and have community service to hell and back. Seems they're trying to make a political "example" out of this kid.
I do think it's worth a prison sentence, although probably not 10 years. I think 2 years would be appropriate considering that he didn't seem to have any remorse about what he did and tried to cover up his involvement. But how is it "political" exactly? What role does politics play in Clementi's death or Ravi's conviction? | |
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| Subject: Re: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:23 pm | |
| Ten years is very harsh, and I do agree that - with the public and media watching, in amongst the 'It Gets Better'/anti-bullying movement - they are trying to make an example out of this boy. A prison sentence is warranted, but it should be reduced to one or two years, pending how clean his record is and how willing he is to cooperate with any other terms. | |
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| Subject: Re: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:02 pm | |
| 10 yrs might be too harsh but that creep should be in the clink AT LEAST 2-5. They will enjoy his little skinny ass in there alot Im sure. | |
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| Subject: Re: Should Dharun Ravi be sentenced to ten years in prison for his crimes against Tyler Clementi? Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:03 pm | |
| I think 10 years is too much. I would give him 1-3 years. | |
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