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    COURT: DOMA UNCONSTITUTIONAL

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    Post by CeCe Thu May 31, 2012 12:57 pm

    COURT: DOMA UNCONSTITUTIONAL

    BOSTON — A federal appeals court Thursday declared that the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutionally denies federal benefits to married gay couples, a ruling all but certain to wind up before the U.S. Supreme Court.

    In its unanimous ruling, the three-judge panel of the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston said the 1996 law that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman discriminates against gay couples because it doesn't give them the same rights and privileges as heterosexual couples.

    The court didn't rule on the law's other politically combustible provision, which said states without same-sex marriage cannot be forced to recognize gay unions performed in states where it's legal. It also wasn't asked to address whether gay couples have a constitutional right to marry.

    The law was passed at a time when it appeared Hawaii would legalize gay marriage. Since then, many states have instituted their own bans on gay marriage, while eight states have approved it, led by Massachusetts in 2004.

    The appeals court agreed with a lower court judge who ruled in 2010 that the law is unconstitutional because it interferes with the right of a state to define marriage and denies married gay couples federal benefits given to heterosexual married couples, including the ability to file joint tax returns.

    The 1st Circuit said its ruling wouldn't be enforced until the U.S. Supreme Court decides the case, meaning that same-sex married couples will not be eligible to receive the economic benefits denied by DOMA until the high court rules.

    That's because the ruling only applies to states within the circuit, including Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Maine, New Hampshire and Puerto Rico. Only the Supreme Court has the final say in deciding whether a law passed by Congress is unconstitutional.

    During arguments before the court last month, a lawyer for gay married couples said the law amounts to "across-the-board disrespect." The couples argued that the power to define and regulate marriage had been left to the states for more than 200 years before Congress passed DOMA.

    An attorney defending the law argued that Congress had a rational basis for passing it in 1996, when opponents worried that states would be forced to recognize gay marriages performed elsewhere. The group said Congress wanted to preserve a traditional and uniform definition of marriage and has the power to define terms used to federal statutes to distribute federal benefits.

    Since DOMA was passed in 1996, many states have instituted their own bans on gay marriage, while eight states have approved it, including Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, Iowa, New Hampshire, Vermont, Maryland, Washington state and the District of Columbia. Maryland and Washington's laws are not yet in effect and may be subject to referendums.

    Last year, President Barack Obama announced the U.S. Department of Justice would no longer defend the constitutionality of the law. After that, House Speaker John Boehner convened the Bipartisan Legal Advisory Group to defend it.

    Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders, the Boston-based legal group that brought one of the lawsuits on behalf of gay married couples, said the court agreed with the couples that it is unconstitutional because it takes one group of legally married people and treats them as "a different class" by making them ineligible for benefits given to other married couples.

    "We've been working on this issue for so many years, and for the court to acknowledge that yes, same-sex couples are legally married, just as any other couple, is fantastic and extraordinary," said Lee Swislow, GLAD's executive director.



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    Post by wants2laugh Thu May 31, 2012 1:21 pm

    oh why the freaking fuss??? just let gays marry, and allow them to be as miserable as everyone else... it will stimulate the economy by doubling the weddings (caterers, dresses, jewelers, florists, photographers, bartenders, vacations, etc) then it will give courts money when they all divorce.

    i would much rather see gay couple receive health benefits if married, rather than as some proposed if living together. I couldnt get my bf's health benefits while living together and not married, so why should homosexuals?

    really getting tired of this topic. and the funniest part about it is... do you think getting married is going to stop them from cheating on each other??? NO. They will cheat just as much as heteros do--- its human nature
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    Post by Alan Smithee Thu May 31, 2012 1:28 pm

    I expected CeCe to beat me to it. I would really appreciate someone who opposes this to explain to me how same sex marriages are a threat to hetero marriages. Seriously. Is the government forcing religous institutions from performing ceremeonies against their will? If so I would be against that but otherwise? If my brother-in-law could have a civil marriage ceremony it's not going to demean or invalidate his sister's marriage to me.
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    Post by Suzi Thu May 31, 2012 4:43 pm

    The problem is that it will likely go to the Extreme court where they will find the law constitutional in a 5 to 4 vote.

    Here in Canada gays can legally marry, nothing has changed, marriages still go on, divorces continue, married people have the right to visit loved ones in hospitals, inherit if widowed and in fact we rarely give gay marriage a thought, it just is. Were they to lose the right that is when we would think about it.
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    Post by CeCe Thu May 31, 2012 4:52 pm

    The foundation of the anti-gay nutters is being chipped away. It would be nice if they would just acknowledge that & accept it. But equality IS going to happen.
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    Post by Minerva Thu May 31, 2012 4:54 pm

    I couldnt get my bf's health benefits while living together and not married, so why should homosexuals?


    In some states you could if you delcared your living together as Domestic Partners. But that's not the case in most unfortunately.

    The problem with states allowing same sex marriages to be legal is that it won't mean anything on the Federal level. For example, in a same sex union, the couple cannot file for a joint tax return. But still, having a state allow it is a step in the right direction.

    DOMA was a ridiculous law to begin with.

    BTW, Marriage is not for me, I put in my time for ten years and vowed never to do it again. But for those who are so inclined I say more power to 'em.

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    Post by Shale Thu May 31, 2012 8:43 pm

    We call them Legacy Couples at the Gay Pride events:

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    All of these guys have been in relationships that are exactly the same as a heterosexual marriage, except if one of them should die, the other would not be eligible for Social Security survivor benefits. I have been receiving SS benefits on my wife's number. All that is required is that you be married for 10 years.

    Why should these committed couples be denied government benefits - WHICH THEY PAID INTO - just because their partner was of the same gender. If religions have a problem with same-gender couples that bigotry is their right, but for the government to deny benefits because of some religious fanaticism is abhorrent.

    That is why it will be the Supreme Court that will eventually do the right thing (as they did in the Loving vs Virginia case in 1967) and insure equal rights under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

    This may be the case. If not there will be another until the conscience of the ppl on the court forces them to quite interpreting the U.S. Constitution by their religious bias.
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    Post by CeCe Thu May 31, 2012 9:29 pm

    Shale wrote:

    That is why it will be the Supreme Court that will eventually do the right thing (as they did in the Loving vs Virginia case in 1967) and insure equal rights under the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

    This may be the case. If not there will be another until the conscience of the ppl on the court forces them to quite interpreting the U.S. Constitution by their religious bias.

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