Do you think teachers salaries should be at all depended upon by how well their students are performing on average?

That's what my mother's always said, and I can't say that I disagree. I get that there will ALWAYS be kids that fail no matter what, but that's no excuse for some of these idiots to just do nothing so everybody's as stupid as everyone else because none of them had a chance instead of some get it and others don't.

To a certain degree but they need to strike some kind of balance. I feel bad for teachers whose pay is linked to the low test scores of lazy students and who don't have the cooperation of those kid's parents just as I feel bad for students saddled with lazy teachers. Same thing with tenure reform. The administration has to look at more than test scores.

Alan Smithee wrote:

To a certain degree but they need to strike some kind of balance. I feel bad for teachers whose pay is linked to the low test scores of lazy students and who don't have the cooperation of those kid's parents just as I feel bad for students saddled with lazy teachers. Same thing with tenure reform. The administration has to look at more than test scores.

There are lazy apathetic fuckheads on both sides. Some teachers are just after a paycheck & benefits & are more interested in the teacher's lounge than the classroom & some kids are never going to even try. Some of the ones who are trying just may not be able to grasp it.

No, it would not be the teacher's fault if he/she has some jerks in their classes that have no interest in getting an education.

Tony Marino wrote:

No, it would not be the teacher's fault if he/she has some jerks in their classes that have no interest in getting an education.

It IS the teachers' fault though when the kids don't get it and instead of actually teaching them anything, the teachers just get them passed onto the next grade, which is becoming more and more common. Nobody bothers holding kids back anymore because it takes too much time and money, they just pass them on to the next person and next person and next person, until they're out in the real world with no education and 12 years' of teachers who decided they could be somebody else's problem.

It should definitely affect their raises, bonuses and promotions.

No.

Yes and no.

The problem with that as they found out in Texas is that teachers only taught what the kids would be tested on. So the kids didn't learn as much as the "no child left behind" was supposed to accomplish. Then of course the Bush admin never funded the act after they made it national.

It should be a factor, but I don't think it should be the deciding one.