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    Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

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    News Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says

    Post by Chris Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:45 pm

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/27/us-usa-circumcision-idUSBRE87Q02720120827


    Benefits of circumcision outweigh risks, U.S. pediatrics group says
    By Julie Steenhuysen

    CHICAGO | Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:06am EDT

    (Reuters) - The American Academy of Pediatrics has issued new guidelines saying the health benefits of infant circumcision outweigh the risks of the surgery, but the influential physician's group has fallen short of a universal recommendation of the procedure for all infants, saying that parents should make the final call.

    The change was prompted by scientific evidence that suggests circumcision can reduce the risk of urinary tract infections in infants and cut the risk of penile cancer and sexually transmitted diseases, including HIV and the human papillomavirus or HPV, which causes cervical and other cancers.

    Although the AAP's 1999 statement was fairly neutral, the new statement, published on Monday in the journal Pediatrics, comes down in favor of the procedure, saying the health benefits of newborn male circumcision "justify access to this procedure for families who choose it."

    "We're not saying you have to have it," said Dr. Andrew Freedman, a pediatric urologist at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles who chaired the AAP's circumcision task force.

    "We're saying if a family thinks it is in the child's best interests, the benefits are enough to help them do that," he said.

    Based on a review of more than 1,000 scientific articles, the task force said male circumcision does not appear to adversely affect penile sexual function, sensitivity of the penis or sexual satisfaction.

    The AAP said parents should be given unbiased information about the procedure and be allowed to make the call on their own.

    But the group did say it is imperative that those performing circumcision are adequately trained, that they use sterile techniques and offer effective pain management.

    GROWING DEBATE

    Circumcision, the surgical removal of the foreskin of the penis, is a ritual obligation for infant Jewish boys, and is also a common rite among Muslims, who account for the largest share of circumcised men worldwide.

    The wider U.S. population adopted the practice due to potential health benefits, but those advantages have become the subject of debate, including recent efforts to ban circumcision in San Francisco and Germany.

    In Germany, the debate over circumcision has landed in the courts. Last week, an unnamed doctor in Germany filed charges against a rabbi for performing ritual circumcisions on infant boys, two months after a court in Cologne angered Jews and Muslims by banning the practice.

    In the United States, the new guidelines may begin to turn the tide on infant circumcision, which has begun to fall in recent years as insurers have balked at paying for a procedure without a strong medical justification.

    In as many as 18 U.S. states, the Medicaid program for the poor has stopped paying for the procedure, a trend some doctors fear could significantly increase U.S. health costs because of increased cases of urinary tract and HIV infections.

    "The American Academy of Pediatrics had formerly been on the discouraging side," said Dr. Peter Richel, chief of pediatrics, at Northern Westchester Hospital in Mount Kisco, New York.

    "If, indeed, we can cut down on a greater incidence statically of HIV or HPV, then I am certainly all for that."

    'SHORT SHRIFT'

    In a statement issued on Friday in anticipation of the guidelines, the anti-circumcision group Intact America said most of the studies underlying the new guidelines are based on research done on adult men in Africa.

    "The task force has failed to consider the large body of evidence from the developed world that shows no medical benefits for the practice, and has given short shrift, if not dismissed out of hand, the serious ethical problems inherent in doctors removing healthy body parts from children who cannot consent," said Georganne Chapin, the group's executive director.

    Dr. Douglas Diekema, a pediatric bioethicist from the Seattle Children's Research Institute and the University of Washington who served on the task force, said the group considered a wide range of ethical issues, including pain experienced by the child and whether parents have the right to make the decision without the child's consent.

    "There is no decision you can make that doesn't potentially put a child at risk. If you choose to circumcise, there is a risk he'll grow up to be a man who wishes he wasn't circumcised," Diekema said.

    Diekema said waiting until the child is older to make the choice about circumcision would lose much of these early benefits, and because the foreskin is thicker in a teen than in an adolescent, the procedure carries more risks.

    "I really don't think there is an easy answer," he said.

    What was clear, Diekema said, was the issue of pain.

    "We were unanimously agreed that it's inappropriate to do this procedure without adequate pain control. That, in many ways, is one of the biggest ethical issues," he said.

    Rabbi Shmuel Goldin of the Ahavath Torah congregation in Englewood, New Jersey, and president of the Rabbinical Council of America, said circumcisions done for religious purposes do not typically involve pain medication, but he noted that the procedure is quick and has a long tradition of success.

    "We've performed it for centuries with no adverse effects to our children."

    Even so, he worries about the lawsuits in Germany trying to ban circumcision.

    "For us, it is such a critical component of our religious life that an attempt to eradicate it is an attempt to eradicate our religion. To have this happening in Germany, given our history, is particularly saddening to us."

    (Reporting by Julie Steenhuysen; Editing by Lisa Shumaker)

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    Post by Tony Marino Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:49 pm

    Why do they have to make such a big deal out of this all the time. When the baby is born either you clip him or you don't end of story. Teach the boy proper hygiene and you don't have to worry about uncut being unhealthy. After seeing circumcision movies I would not have any boy of mine clipped, he could always do it later on in life if he wanted to.
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    Post by Supernova Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:50 pm

    Tony Marino wrote:Why do they have to make such a big deal out of this all the time. When the baby is born either you clip him or you don't end of story. Teach the boy proper hygiene and you don't have to worry about uncut being unhealthy. After seeing circumcision movies I would not have any boy of mine clipped, he could always do it later on in life if he wanted to.

    I have to agree, this seems like the ultimate mountain out of a molehill.
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    Post by Shale Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:59 pm

    I'm glad the article contained the fallacy in some studies, like applying studies done in third world countries to first world practice. What tribals do in Africa does not apply to the lifestyle of urban men in Europe and North America.

    Also this:

    "The wider U.S. population adopted the practice due to potential health benefits, ..."

    NO, circumcision took off in Puritan America when it was seen as a deterrent to masturbation. (Guys with foreskins don't have to worry about getting lube, we just do it whenever the mood takes us). There was quite a hysteria in the 19h Century about masturbation with all sorts of devices and preventives, including circumcision.


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    Post by Nystyle709 Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:24 pm

    I agree that the ultimate decision should be up to the parents.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:48 pm

    Another ship that sailed on me a long time ago.
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    Post by RobbieFTW Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:44 pm

    Something to think about I guess. I dunno. This topic doesnt get me all passionate one way another like it does others.
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:16 pm

    Here's a simpler answer, "routine" infant circumcision is just DUMB!

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    Post by Suzi Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:30 am

    It was routine when our son was born 51 years ago. He is glad it was done says women like it better. Hubby wishes he had been done, because he suffers from heat. He is very tidy but still heat bothers him. Friends have a 5 year old grandson who will have to be done, his foreskin is too tight and they can't push it back for cleaning. I suspect he will wish it was done when he was an infant.
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    Post by captainbryce Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:12 pm

    Suzi wrote:Friends have a 5 year old grandson who will have to be done, his foreskin is too tight and they can't push it back for cleaning.
    They're not supposed to! Therein lies the problem.

    Suzi wrote:I suspect he will wish it was done when he was an infant.
    Only if he's FORCED to go through with it now. But he really doesn't HAVE to be for the reason previously stated.
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    Post by Tony Marino Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:59 pm

    Captain is right, I read your not supposed to pull the skin back until a certain age when the skin loosens up on its own.
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    Post by captainbryce Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:58 am

    Tony Marino wrote:Captain is right, I read your not supposed to pull the skin back until a certain age when the skin loosens up on its own.
    Correct. Unfortunately for decades doctors in the US taught parents the exact opposite, and that corrupted knowledge has passed itself down from generation to generation of parents who remain ignorant on proper care of an intact boy.

    For shits and giggles, the first person that should ever retract a boys foreskin is the boy himself. And that usually happens around 10-12 years old (masturbation age), sometimes earlier and sometimes later. Before then, the foreskin is usually fused to the head of the penis. Parents who think they need to forcibly retract their sons foreskin to "clean it" usually end up breaking the skin and causing an infection. Then some American doctor (practicing medicine in a country that doesn't acknowledge that the foreskin is part of the penis in medical books) recommends circumcision to "prevent infections", when the reality is that the parents caused the infection in the first place. In Europe where they don't cut their boys, they generally leave the penis alone and everyone ends up okay. In America, for some reason we like to think that this organ needs all kinds of special attention and end up breaking it in the process. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:01 am

    Interesting
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    Post by captainbryce Fri Sep 07, 2012 9:27 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:Interesting
    Which part?
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    Post by Alan Smithee Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:36 pm

    captainbryce wrote:Which part?

    The tip? Shrugs (Oh well…)
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    Post by Tony Marino Mon Sep 10, 2012 12:32 pm

    captainbryce wrote:Correct. Unfortunately for decades doctors in the US taught parents the exact opposite, and that corrupted knowledge has passed itself down from generation to generation of parents who remain ignorant on proper care of an intact boy.

    For shits and giggles, the first person that should ever retract a boys foreskin is the boy himself. And that usually happens around 10-12 years old (masturbation age), sometimes earlier and sometimes later. Before then, the foreskin is usually fused to the head of the penis. Parents who think they need to forcibly retract their sons foreskin to "clean it" usually end up breaking the skin and causing an infection. Then some American doctor (practicing medicine in a country that doesn't acknowledge that the foreskin is part of the penis in medical books) recommends circumcision to "prevent infections", when the reality is that the parents caused the infection in the first place. In Europe where they don't cut their boys, they generally leave the penis alone and everyone ends up okay. In America, for some reason we like to think that this organ needs all kinds of special attention and end up breaking it in the process. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

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