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    Russia's Anti-US Adoption Bill Has Putin's Support

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    Post by Alan Smithee Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:12 pm

    Does anyone here have first (or even second hand) knowledge of U.S. adoption policies? Is it really that much easier to get a child from a foreign country?

    MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin said Thursday he will sign a controversial bill barring Americans from adopting Russian children, as the Kremlin's children's rights advocate recommended extending the ban to the rest of the world.

    The bill is part of the country's increasingly confrontational stance with the West and has angered some Russians who argue it victimizes kids to make a political point.

    The law would block dozens of Russian children now in the process of being adopted by American families from leaving the country and cut off a major route out of often dismal orphanages. Russia is the single biggest source of adopted children in the U.S., with more than 60,000 Russian children being taken in by Americans over the past two decades.

    "I still don't see any reasons why I should not sign it," Putin said at a televised meeting. He went on to say that he "intends" to do so.

    UNICEF estimates that there are about 740,000 children not in parental custody in Russia, while only 18,000 Russians are now waiting to adopt a child. Russian officials say they want to encourage more Russians to adopt Russian orphans.

    Children rights ombudsman Pavel Astakhov on Thursday petitioned the president to extend the ban to other countries.

    "There is huge money and questionable people involved in the semi-legal schemes of exporting children," he tweeted.

    Kremlin critics say Astakhov is trying to extend the ban only to get more publicity and win more favors with Putin. A graduate of the KGB law school and a celebrity lawyer, Astakhov was a pro-Putin activist before becoming a children rights ombudsman and is now seen as the Kremlin's voice on adoption issues.

    "This is cynicism beyond limits," opposition leader Ilya Yashin tweeted. "The children rights ombudsman is depriving children of a future."


    The bill is retaliation for an American law that calls for sanctions against Russian officials deemed to be human rights violators. Kremlin critics say that means Russian officials who own property in the West and send their children to Western schools would lose access to their assets and families.

    Putin said U.S. authorities routinely let Americans suspected of violence toward Russian adoptees go unpunished – a clear reference to Dima Yakovlev, a Russian toddler for whom the bill is named. The child was adopted by Americans and then died in 2008 after his father left him in a car in broiling heat for hours. The father was found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

    The U.S. State Department says it regrets the Russian Parliament's decision to pass the bill, saying it would prevent many children from growing up in families.

    Astakhov said Wednesday that 46 children who were about to be adopted in the United States would remain in Russia if the bill comes into effect.

    The adoption of the bill follows weeks of hysterical media campaign on Kremlin-controlled television that lambasts American adoptive parents and adoption agencies that allegedly bribe their way into getting Russian children.

    A few lawmakers claimed that some Russian children were adopted by Americans only to be used for organ transplants and become sex toys or cannon fodder for the U.S. Army.

    Critics of the bill have left dozens of stuffed toys and candles outside the parliament's lower and upper houses to express solidarity with Russian orphans.

    The U.S. law, called the Magnitsky Act, stems from the case of Sergei Magnitsky, a Russian lawyer who died in jail after being arrested by police officers whom he accused of a $230 million tax fraud. The law prohibits officials allegedly involved in his death from entering the U.S.

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    Post by Forgiveness Man Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:32 pm

    Well, it's never "easy" but I do believe a lot of people prefer it. I know somebody who did it. I'm sure there's a lot of reasonable motives.
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    Post by Tony Marino Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:49 pm

    My cousin did it a few years ago, from what I remember there was a lot of red tape involved but they got her.
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    Post by wants2laugh Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:57 pm

    it is MUCH easier. Unfortunately, here there are so many kids who need homes, and the proof that racism still exists is that most of the children are black. I know a woman who was told to adopt a baby here, she would need to go on a list for 8 yrs, through an adoption agency. She wound up adopting two children--- one from columbia, and one from argentina. Each cost her about $20,000.... but each one only took a few months rather than years. Considering her children are hispanic, i can't imagine that she would have turned down a black child here... so i dont know if the "waiting period" was for ANY child, or one of a specific race.

    Romania was purposely promoting sexuality in order to produce kids, put them in orphanages then get tens of thousands in adoption fees from americans. In Russia though, there is a stigma. Most russian men will not raise someone else's kids. so many men were killed during WWII in Russia, that the male population was decimated... the ratio of women to men is huge. So men can pick a woman... keep her for a decade, have a few kids, then dump her for a younger one. That is why there are so many russian mail order brides, cause they usually have kids and cant find a russian man willing to accept them.

    There are going to be many homeless children if putin puts this through... and all i have to say is:::: SAD SAD SAD!!!!

    also, here there are so many lawyers that get involved, agencies wanting money, scam artist surrogates... its crazy. AND there is a stigma here on military families adopting. Some state/private agencies deny military families due to the instability of deployments and changing duty stations. There was one study that said that 82% of all army marriages fail, so they use that study to deny children. I have two military friends who went to romania and got kids. SAD SAD SAD.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:22 am

    I don't know about it in detail, but I do know it's much harder to adopt here than it is in other countries. And if Putin really does sign this bill, he is scum.
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    Post by CeCe Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:46 am

    Definitely easier & Putin's an ass for this. These kids need homes.

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