Today confirmed, yet again, why I hate Dorian and the whole "Cramer Women" crap so much. Guess she's forgotten that she hired a stalker to go after her own daughter, just to frame her daughter's boyfriend, that she hired a hitman to kill her other daughter's family. Dorian is the one who certainly casts the first stone. I LOVE that James is interested in one "cramer" girl and dating another. Wonder what she'll say when she learns the truth about Eli. she was so thrilled to have a cold-blooded killer who assaults and abuses his badge as part of the family and now she'll have a psycho-killer. Great guys to welcome to the family, Dorian.

On the other hand, I'm REALLY finding David and Dorian gross, esp. when Nora pointed out that Dorian will be their daughter-in-law. Dorian is old enough to be their mother-in-law, not their daughter-in-law.

I know. Dorian yet again pisses me off. Her Cramer girls are no prize.

I've always thought David and Dorian were a hideous couple (and yes it IS largely because of the age difference...but also because she turns into a complete joke in his presence.)

I'm counting down to TW leaves the show. And this time, I hope he stays away for good.

all the cramers can go as far as i am concern. they do nothing but wreck havoc and destroy lives and walk away scot free like they are the victims. to list the crimes,victims and lives destroyed by the CRAMER WOMEN would take too long. just ask todd,joey,kevin,markko and charlie what being involved with CRAMER WOMEN will do for you!!!

That is why I say how quickly they forget and act as if they have never done one thing wrong in their lives. Always judging other people.

Yup - that's exactly why I hate the whole "Cramer women" crap so much - bunch of sanctimonious, self-righteous, busy-body bitches that most of them are. There are so few redeeming qualities about the Cramer women. The whole crew would go and the only one I'd miss would be Hope.