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South African Pastor Under Fire For Claiming That Jesus Had HIV
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» by tffhthewriter November 2, 2010, 12:00pm




A Pastor in Cape Town, South Africa is under fire after claiming in his sermons that Jesus was HIV positive.
According to United Kingdom network BBC, in a series of sermons
delivered at Luhlaza High School in Khayelitsha Township, Pastor Xola
Skosana declared that Jesus Christ had “put himself in the shoes of people who experience brokenness” and had channeled the suffering of his followers by experiencing their same sickness, pain and ostracism.

“Wherever you open the scriptures Jesus puts himself in the shoes of people who experience brokenness,” Skosana told the BBC. “Isaiah
53, for example, clearly paints a picture of Jesus who takes upon
himself the infirmities and the brokenness of humanity.”

Although many agree and feel that the teaching is synonymous to that
which is taught all over the world, some religious followers are
outraged over the connection he has made between Jesus and the
unjustifiable situations in which the virus can be contracted.
Despite the controversy surrounding the statements, Skosana states
that his intent is to let the infected know that Jesus still loves them
and God is not mad at them, regardless of what they did wrong.

“The best gift we can give to people who are HIV-positive is to help de-stigmatize AIDS," Skosana continued. “[We need to] create an environment where they know God is not against them, he's not ashamed of them.”

Regardless of his intentions, fellow religious leaders state that
the metaphor endangers believers' understanding of not only Jesus as
supreme, but also God, ultimately rendering him part of the problem and
not the solution.

One solution that the country of South Africa is considering to
fight in the spread of HIV is the implementation of male circumcision.
According to published reports, researchers, South African
authorities and medical experts have expressed the possibility of
circumcision being able to reduce the spread of HIV by 60 percent.
Experts state that South Africa as a whole is expected to circumcise 2 million boys in the next 5 years.

Source: http://hiphopwired.com/2010/11/02/south-african-pastor-under-fire-for-stating-jesus-had-hiv-22222/

Jesus was HIV positive? xD The lengths some people go to.......... lol

^^^^If that's all he's saying, he seems to have entangled his own message.

I read it 4 times & I still don't see where he made that actual statement. It's the headline but not in the text.

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Skosana declared that Jesus Christ had “put himself in the shoes of people who experience brokenness” and had channeled the suffering of his followers by experiencing their same sickness, pain and ostracism.

And I'm not seeing the issue because the bible makes a case for it anyway. Something here from a number of translations.

<< Matthew 8:17 >>

New International Version (©1984)
This was to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet Isaiah: "He took up our infirmities and carried our diseases."

New Living Translation (©2007)
This fulfilled the word of the Lord through the prophet Isaiah, who said, "He took our sicknesses and removed our diseases."

English Standard Version (©2001)
This was to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah: “He took our illnesses and bore our diseases.”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
This was to fulfill what was spoken through Isaiah the prophet: "HE HIMSELF TOOK OUR INFIRMITIES AND CARRIED AWAY OUR DISEASES."

International Standard Version (©2008)
This was to fulfill what was declared by the prophet Isaiah when he said, "It was he who took our illnesses away and removed our diseases."

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
So what the prophet Isaiah had said came true: "He took away our weaknesses and removed our diseases."

King James Bible
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare [our] sicknesses.

American King James Version
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bore our sicknesses.

American Standard Version
that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying: Himself took our infirmities, and bare our diseases.

Bible in Basic English
So that the word of Isaiah the prophet might come true: He himself took our pains and our diseases.

Douay-Rheims Bible
That it might be fulfilled, which was spoken by the prophet Isaias, saying: He took our infirmities, and bore our diseases.

Darby Bible Translation
so that that should be fulfilled which was spoken through Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities and bore our diseases.

English Revised Version
that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our diseases.

Webster's Bible Translation
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying, He himself took our infirmities, and bore our sicknesses.

Weymouth New Testament
in order that this prediction of the Prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled, "He took on Him our weaknesses, and bore the burden of our diseases."

World English Bible
that it might be fulfilled which was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying: "He took our infirmities, and bore our diseases."

Young's Literal Translation
that it might be fulfilled that was spoken through Isaiah the prophet, saying, 'Himself took our infirmities, and the sicknesses he did bear.'

Source: http://bible.cc/matthew/8-17.htm

^^^^I don't see the correlation.

Forgiveness_Man wrote:

Jesus was HIV positive? xD The lengths some people go to.......... lol

To do what?

alan smithee wrote:

To do what?

To do many things. It was a statement with many applications. xD

Hi all,

That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying, He himself took our infirmities, and bore our sicknesses. Thanks for the information.

Forgiveness_Man wrote:

To do many things. It was a statement with many applications.

Why? :biggrin:

alan smithee wrote:

Why? :biggrin:

Why not have a statement that can apply to a lot of things?