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    Our Zodiac Signs Have Changed

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    Post by Tony Marino Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 pm

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    Post by CeCe Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:10 pm

    I refuse to accept this lol
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    Post by Tony Marino Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:11 pm

    me too!!
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    Post by Marc™ Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:12 pm

    Cool. I'm a Leo now. Maybe that means my luck will change.....
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    Post by Marc™ Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:17 pm

    Oh wait a second....
    CNN disputes it.

    No, your zodiac sign hasn't changed
    Our Zodiac Signs Have Changed T1larg.zodiac.sign.ts
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    Tattoo parlor owners must be salivating. An assertion in a Minneapolis Star Tribune article that our understanding of the zodiac is off by about a month - and that therefore people have been identifying themselves with the wrong sign - caught fire on the internet Thursday, and many folks are in an absolute panic on social media.

    "If my zodiac symbol has been changed to a Libra, what am I supposed to do with my Scorpio tattoo?!?!," read one tweet Thursday.

    Some vowed to get their tats removed. Others groaned about losing the sign with which they’ve identified themselves for years. The zodiac and related terms - including Ophiuchus, said to be a 13th and neglected sign - were trending Twitter topics much of Thursday.

    But before astrology fans scrape the ink from their arms because they think they're now a Virgo instead of a Libra, they should consider this: If they adhered to the tropical zodiac - which, if they're a Westerner, they probably did – absolutely nothing has changed for them.

    That's worth rephrasing: If you considered yourself a Cancer under the tropical zodiac last week, you're still a Cancer under the same zodiac this week.


    That's because the tropical zodiac – which is fixed to seasons, and which Western astrology adheres to – differs from the sidereal zodiac – which is fixed to constellations and is followed more in the East, and is the type of zodiac to which the Star Tribune article ultimately refers.

    Two zodiacs. That's nothing new.

    "This story is born periodically as if someone has discovered some truth. It's not news," said Jeff Jawer, astrologer with Tarot.com.

    The hubbub started with Sunday's Star Tribune article, which said the following: "The ancient Babylonians based zodiac signs on the constellation the sun was 'in' on the day a person was born. During the ensuing millenniums, the moon’s gravitational pull has made the Earth 'wobble' around its axis, creating about a one-month bump in the stars' alignment."

    "When [astrologers] say that the sun is in Pisces, it’s really not in Pisces," Parke Kunkle, a board member of the Minnesota Planetarium Society, told the Star Tribune.

    "Indeed," the article continued, "most horoscope readers who consider themselves Pisces are actually Aquarians." The article also asserts Scorpio's window lasts only seven days, and that a 13th constellation, Ophiuchus, used to be counted between Scorpio and Sagittarius but was discarded by the Babylonians because they wanted 12 signs per year.

    True enough, Jawer says, the sun doesn't align with constellations at the same time of year that it did millennia ago. But that’s irrelevant for the tropical zodiac, codified for Western astrology by Ptolemy in the second century, he says.

    In the tropical zodiac, the start of Aries is fixed to one equinox, and Libra the other.

    "When we look at the astrology used in the Western world, the seasonally based astrology has not changed, was never oriented to the constellations, and stands as … has been stated for two millenniums," Jawer said.

    People who put stock in astrology can ask whether they should adhere to the tropical zodiac or the sidereal zodiac. Jawer argues for the tropical.

    "Astrology is geocentric. It relates life on Earth to the Earth’s environment, and seasons are the most dramatic effect, which is why we use the tropical zodiac," he said.


    Source: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/13/no-your-zodiac-sign-hasnt-changed/
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    Post by femme fatale Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:49 pm

    It's all over the place. Some are saying it's changed others are saying it hasn't. Who knows???

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    Post by RedBedroom Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:55 pm

    I don't understand. Wouldn't they have been able to predict the need for revision a long time ago ? I don't put any stock into signs anyway, and to me this makes it all seem like even more b.s.
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    Post by Nhaiyel Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:15 pm

    Here's another article from CNN about it
    http://www.cnn.com/2011/LIVING/01/14/zodiac.signs.identity.crisis.online/

    It's all Topsy-Turvy and contradictory, and I really don't care to give these new theories serious credence.

    I was born an Aquarius, and I'll stay an Aquarius. no



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    Post by Shale Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:36 pm

    "If my zodiac symbol has been changed to a Libra, what am I supposed to do with my Scorpio tattoo?!?!,"

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    "Some vowed to get their tats removed. Others groaned about losing the sign with which they’ve identified themselves for years. The zodiac and related terms - including Ophiuchus, said to be a 13th and neglected sign"

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    Post by Chris Fri Jan 14, 2011 6:50 pm

    Mine didn't change. On both the Tropical and Sidereal (the latter being reflective of the 'new' Zodiac system), my sign reads Taurus.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:01 pm

    Don't care what that thing says. I am and will always be a Cancer.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:16 pm

    I'm still the same.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Fri Jan 14, 2011 10:20 pm

    ...and didn't the change in Pluto's staus from "planet" to "dwarf planet" screw things up for the astrologers?
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    Post by Impact Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:29 am

    They say it's only reflective to those born after 2009.
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    Post by Tony Marino Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:33 am

    Im a Taurus and going to stay one.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:00 am

    Tony Marino wrote:Im a Taurus and going to stay one.

    I guess you are. Stubborn like bull. Wink
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    Post by Tony Marino Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:26 am

    alan smithee wrote:
    Tony Marino wrote:Im a Taurus and going to stay one.

    I guess you are. Stubborn like bull. Wink

    That's one Taurus trait yep.
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    Post by CatEyes10736 Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:20 pm

    CeCe wrote:I refuse to accept this lol

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    Post by TSJFan4Ever Sun Jan 16, 2011 7:50 pm

    I never really followed my horoscope, esp. after we had an assignment in Astronomy to disco ver out true zodiac. We had this really neat program that would show you the stars overhead on any given day, as though you were lying out in a field, looking up. We plugged in out location and the date - turned out I was a Capricorn and not a Leo. The point of the lesson was to show how the constellations shift over time. We had some good laughs over that, though most of us in the class didn't really pay attention to our horoscopes, anyway.

    I remember this one girl in high school who attributed EVERYTHING that happened to Astrology - her moods, what happened that day, and so forth. She'd go around saying she was behaving this way because Jupiter was crossing paths with the son and the moon was waxing and the stars were aligned in this way or that way. If something happened, she had an Astrological reason for it. Wonder what she'd say to this - lol!
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    Post by Offbeat Oddity Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:26 pm

    Oh, I hope it's not true. No offense to the Taurus sign, but I really would like to remain a Gemini.

    Not that I put much stock into astrology...

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