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    Post by stonestatic Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:50 pm

    Apple has approved an app by Exodus International designed to be a quick resource to those converting homosexuals and those under-going conversion.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/18/apple-exodus-international-app_n_837698.html

    Not surprisingly there is a petition to have the app removed from the iTunes Stores.

    http://www.change.org/petitions/demand-that-apple-remove-ex-gay-iphone-app#?opt_new=t&opt_fb=t
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    Post by GrayWolf Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:44 pm

    Maybe I'm being insensitive but apps have to be downloaded, they're not forced on anybody. Instead of petitioning to get it removed, just don't download it. If enough people reject the app., Apple will drop it because it won't produce any revenue for them.
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    Post by Shale Tue Mar 22, 2011 2:58 pm

    Yeah, once Apple gets a good rep for supporting bigoted apps, maybe Fred Phelps will be able to put his godhatesfags app on there. (It would likely be a direct tweet to Satan).
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    Post by Tony Marino Tue Mar 22, 2011 4:24 pm

    Shale wrote:Yeah, once Apple gets a good rep for supporting bigoted apps, maybe Fred Phelps will be able to put his godhatesfags app on there. (It would likely be a direct tweet to Satan).

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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:27 pm

    GrayWolf wrote:Maybe I'm being insensitive but apps have to be downloaded, they're not forced on anybody. Instead of petitioning to get it removed, just don't download it. If enough people reject the app., Apple will drop it because it won't produce any revenue for them.
    I agree. People are babies to get upset over this.

    And they seriously got an app for this? FORGIVENESS MAN They need to come out with an app to mute all politicians. Razz
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:06 pm

    If people are stupid enough to believe that such a thing is possible, then they deserve to lose their money on a useless product!
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:09 pm

    ^^^^I'm sure those few little dollars are such harsh punishment. Wink
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:36 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^I'm sure those few little dollars are such harsh punishment. Wink
    It's the principle of the matter. At the end of the day, they are waisting their own money and their own time. I say let them!
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:41 pm

    captainbryce wrote:
    Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^I'm sure those few little dollars are such harsh punishment. Wink
    It's the principle of the matter. At the end of the day, they are waisting their own money and their own time. I say let them!

    Sure they are wasting their money. (Although I kind of feel pricey apps are kind of a waste of money in general, but that's beside the point) But it's hardly going to break the bank so I doubt they'd learn anything. Wink
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:28 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:
    Sure they are wasting their money. (Although I kind of feel pricey apps are kind of a waste of money in general, but that's beside the point) But it's hardly going to break the bank so I doubt they'd learn anything. Wink
    And what is it that they should be "learning" according to you? What would be the "lesson" here in your opinion?
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:43 pm

    captainbryce wrote:
    Forgiveness Man wrote:
    Sure they are wasting their money. (Although I kind of feel pricey apps are kind of a waste of money in general, but that's beside the point) But it's hardly going to break the bank so I doubt they'd learn anything. Wink
    And what is it that they should be "learning" according to you? What would be the "lesson" here in your opinion?

    What lesson? FORGIVENESS MAN It's a stupid app. I'm not the one who thinks that the principle of paying a few bucks for something that won't work is somehow a "punishment." The only lesson to learn here is how apps aren't really all that. Razz
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:58 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:
    captainbryce wrote:And what is it that they should be "learning" according to you? What would be the "lesson" here in your opinion?

    What lesson? FORGIVENESS MAN It's a stupid app. I'm not the one who thinks that the principle of paying a few bucks for something that won't work is somehow a "punishment." The only lesson to learn here is how apps aren't really all that. Razz
    Of course that's what your lesson would be. Not that gays can't be "converted" or that a company shouldn't be promoting that gays be converted, your lesson from that is that "apps aren't really all that". How enlightened your perspective is!
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:02 pm

    Why should my lesson be gays can't be converted? We're talking about an APP! Therefore, my lesson would be about an APP! If I wanted to teach a lesson about not being able to convert gays, I wouldn't focus on teaching it to people putting any stock in the power of an APP!
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:14 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:Why should my lesson be gays can't be converted? We're talking about an APP! Therefore, my lesson would be about an APP! If I wanted to teach a lesson about not being able to convert gays, I wouldn't focus on teaching it to people putting any stock in the power of an APP!
    Because the topic of discussion was about a SPECIFIC APP, the reason attention is being called to THAT specific APP and WHY there is a petetiOn to have said APP removed! It's not about "an APP", but that fact has apparently gone over your head (or that's what you want us to believe so that you don't have to justify a homophobic position). Either way, it's pretty weak!
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:43 pm

    There's the word again. I am beginning to think it means you like me. Razz

    I don't care what app it is. An app is an app. I don't care what it does. It's an app. And therefore I will not acknowledge it as anything more than an app. It's a useless app, as most are. And the lesson to be learned is that apps are just a largely useless thing. lol
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:54 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:There's the word again. I am beginning to think it means you like me. Razz
    But I do like you. I already told you that before remember. Smile

    Forgiveness Man wrote:I don't care what app it is. An app is an app. I don't care what it does. It's an app. And therefore I will not acknowledge it as anything more than an app. It's a useless app, as most are. And the lesson to be learned is that apps are just a largely useless thing. lol
    So you say...NOW, after all that, when you probably could have said that first and prevented this discussion in the beginning. But of course all of that would depend on you actually caring about being perceived as homophobic and since you don't that completely explains why you neglected to mention that before.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:59 pm

    ^^^^^I didn't say you didn't. Razz

    You're really trying to salvage this. lol
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:02 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^^I didn't say you didn't. Razz

    You're really trying to salvage this. lol
    Not really. I'm just trying to paint you as a homophobe because I think that if you weren't you could easily demonstrate that. And I think that if you make no effort to demonstrate that, then it's exactly how other people should perceive you as. What? Is that mean or something? confused
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:05 pm

    captainbryce wrote:
    Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^^I didn't say you didn't. Razz

    You're really trying to salvage this. lol
    Not really. I'm just trying to paint you as a homophobe because I think that if you weren't you could easily demonstrate that. And I think that if you make no effort to demonstrate that, then it's exactly how other people should perceive you as. What? Is that mean or something? confused

    People will perceive me in whatever way best suits their prejudice. The obsession with painting me as a homophobe is kinda cute. It's like a little kid trying to reach up and touch the clouds. big grin
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:18 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:
    captainbryce wrote:Not really. I'm just trying to paint you as a homophobe because I think that if you weren't you could easily demonstrate that. And I think that if you make no effort to demonstrate that, then it's exactly how other people should perceive you as. What? Is that mean or something? confused

    People will perceive me in whatever way best suits their prejudice. The obsession with painting me as a homophobe is kinda cute. It's like a little kid trying to reach up and touch the clouds. big grin
    I never prejudge anyone. I JUDGE people based on what they say and do (big difference). I have nothing against, Christians, Muslims, Gays, Straights, Conservatives or Democrats. The people who believe that any of these groups have an agenda are the ones who are prejudice and the people who think that any views that come out of that group are inherently wrong or worth tossing aside because of where they came from are the ones that are prejudice. But interestingly enough, your responses to most of my comments today remind me a little kid (albiet for very different reasons). Good to know that we think alike on some level eh. Smile
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:26 pm

    You do prejudge people. But no point in arguing.

    Back to the topic, they need an app that drives your car now. Razz
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    Post by Nystyle709 Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:27 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:

    Back to the topic, they need an app that drives your car now. Converting Homosexuals? There's an Apple app for that! 253468018

    They have one that starts your car.
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:58 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:You do prejudge people. But no point in arguing.
    The reason there is no point in arguing is because there is no argument here. You have no case! You are making a false statement about me without anything to back it up. Either produce some evidence of me prejudging you, someone else or ANYTHING, or expect this to come off as a desperate and lame attack.

    Forgiveness Man wrote:Back to the topic, they need an app that drives your car now. Razz
    ^^Or change the subject. Either way! Smile
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:05 pm

    Change the subject? The absurdity of a particular app is the subject. I am making a comparison.
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Mar 22, 2011 10:42 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:Change the subject? The absurdity of a particular app is the subject. I am making a comparison.
    And the part about a petition to remove an app that can drive your car from being an option comes into play where exactly? I'm pretty sure the OP would have entitled it "Crazy Apps" if the intention was to discuss "crazy apps" instead of "Converting Homosexuals". Linking us to a petition to have a particularly offensive app removed suggests otherwise. Just sayin...

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