The only thing that Clinton did that I didn't approve of was The Telecommunications Act of 1996; and that's petty. I keep on envisioning Joe Biden resigning, and Obama choosing Bill to be his vice president running mate for 2012. Talk about a landslide that would be.

Chris wrote:

The only thing that Clinton did that I didn't approve of was The Telecommunications Act of 1996; and that's petty. I keep on envisioning Joe Biden resigning, and Obama choosing Bill to be his vice president running mate for 2012. Talk about a landslide that would be.

That would hardly be a landslide. lol Obama is unpopular and Clinton was never really THAT popular either. Obama cannot do anything to win this 2012 election. In order for him to win, the GOP has to really screw up, and I mean screw up BIG time. I think most of the leading candidates right now could take down Obama no matter who his running mate is come 2012. But Bill Clinton wouldn't be that strong a running mate. Hillary would be a stronger running mate. (Of course, if Obama puts her as a running mate, he'd better watch his back if he wins. One heartbeat away from the presidency is NOT a place he wants Hillary to be. ) The only landslide possible with Obama is a landslide defeat.

Chris wrote:

The only thing that Clinton did that I didn't approve of was The Telecommunications Act of 1996; and that's petty. I keep on envisioning Joe Biden resigning, and Obama choosing Bill to be his vice president running mate for 2012. Talk about a landslide that would be.

The 22nd Amendment:

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1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

I'm no legal scholar but I don’t think this would disqualify him from being elected Vice-president and even serving as President if the worst should happen.

Chris wrote:

The only thing that Clinton did that I didn't approve of was The Telecommunications Act of 1996; and that's petty. I keep on envisioning Joe Biden resigning, and Obama choosing Bill to be his vice president running mate for 2012. Talk about a landslide that would be.

I don't like DADT or DOMA which he has to accept the responsibility for. That was bullshit. He's expressed some regret but both have caused a lot of unnecessary suffering. Not sure about the Telecommunications Act, will have to look that one up....but we were in a better situation as a country as far as the economy.

Don't think Bill Clinton can run but Hillary could.

Even if you haven't been much of a fan of his presidency, is there anything about it or him that you do like?

Well for starters, he's not an ultra-conservative Republican. I think his administration has had a generally positive affect on the direction of this country's foreign policy (because he is able to do that pretty much unilaterally without congressional Republican obstructionism.) It's that obstructionism that has hampered domestic policy.

i think he truly cares about people. He enacted the mortgage modification program to help people struggling thru the economy to keep their houses. Unforunately, i do not think its enough. If we can bail out wall street, and car companies, and banks, why cant we bail out the american people who will definitely put the money back into the economy anyway???

wants2laugh wrote:

i think he truly cares about people. He enacted the mortgage modification program to help people struggling thru the economy to keep their houses. Unforunately, i do not think its enough. If we can bail out wall street, and car companies, and banks, why cant we bail out the american people who will definitely put the money back into the economy anyway???

I recently watched a made for cable movie on HBO called "Too Big To Fail", a dramatization (as if the real life events weren't dramatic enough) of the financial meltdown in 2008. At the end of the movie, that ends with the TARP bailout of the banks, Paul Giamati (as FED chairman Ben Bernanke) says something along the lines that he hopes the banks do what they're supposed to do with the money: lend it as credit and William Hurt (as Treasury Sect. Henry Paulson) says something like "of course they will, why wouldn't they?" We're still waiting.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm...............................

The guy is destroying the Democratic party and himself. He's a walking disaster and the average person who wouldn't vote for anybody with a D in their name knows it! Now it's just a race to see what will sink first, the country or the party. It's unfortunate that it's come to this, but yeah, that's the best thing about the guy. He's not very smart so he exposes the ultra-left agenda for the destructive policy that it is.

Runner up for his best qualities is that he's very funny to watch. Kind of like a kid trying to figure out how to work complicated machinery and not succeeding. If it weren't so damaging to the country, it'd be very compelling television!

That he should be leaving office soon.

He got healthcare...something no other president has been able to do. And he's not a Republican. That's more than enough reason to like him.

He's cute

cheaps wrote:

He's cute

Sooooooooooo on a scale from 1 to 10?

Other than I think he's a moron with a healthcare plan that people can't afford, anyway . . . .

He has charisma, which probably got him elected. He doesn't represent any of the changes I want.

Alan Smithee wrote:

Sooooooooooo on a scale from 1 to 10?

7

Supernova wrote:

That he should be leaving office soon.

I can't tell considering how the Republican party can't find a worthy opponent to go against him. Might not be with the same edge be got over McCain, but I'm predicting Obama/Biden in 2012.

JM130ELM wrote:

I can't tell considering how the Republican party can't find a worthy opponent to go against him.

Herman Cain!

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Might not be with the same edge be got over McCain, but I'm predicting Obama/Biden in 2012.

For the most part.

Best thing about Obama, is that he makes an awesome bobblehead:

JM130ELM wrote:

I can't tell considering how the Republican party can't find a worthy opponent to go against him. Might not be with the same edge be got over McCain, but I'm predicting Obama/Biden in 2012.

Agreed. Can anyone seriously name one Republican that stands half a chance?

I do not like his political agenda which to me is simply Marxist. He is going the same route Carter did in many of his economic issues. Suppressing the free market by demonizing them is not the way to go.
I am for having a system that encourages the market to grow, not to take away from people to give it to others. That is what I call missplaced compassion.
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JM130ELM wrote:

I can't tell considering how the Republican party can't find a worthy opponent to go against him. Might not be with the same edge be got over McCain, but I'm predicting Obama/Biden in 2012.

At this point, I think both of the frontrunners could really trash the guy barring any big screwup. The guy has nothing to really run on so I say the Republican needs multiple screw-ups to really give Obama a shot. I'll never underestimate their ability to nominate some moderate loser cause they think they'll win more easily. But I think they still got some power and that is gonna make Obama very scared.

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President Obama declares end of Iraq War; troops out by year's end
Friday, October 21, 2011




By Carlos Granda, Leanne Suter, Sid Garcia and Leticia Juarez

WASHINGTON (KABC) -- In a stunning Friday announcement, President Barack Obama declared the impending end to the nearly nine-year war in Iraq, saying American troops will be home for the holidays.

"Over the next two months, our troops in Iraq, tens of thousands of them, will pack up their gear and board convoys for the journey home," Obama said.

It will end one of the longest wars in U.S. history. The president said he wants all U.S. troops out of Iraq by the end of 2011.

"Our troops are finally coming home," Obama said during a news briefing.

The announcement puts to an end the possibility of maintaining a U.S. military presence in Iraq beyond the withdrawal deadline that was set in 2008 by President George W. Bush. In recent months, Washington had been discussing the possibility of several thousand American troops remaining to continue training Iraqi security forces. But Iraqi leaders refused to give U.S. troops immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts, and the U.S. refused to stay without that guarantee.

"The last American soldier will cross the border out of Iraq with their heads held high, proud of their success and knowing that the American people stand united in our support for our troops," Obama said.

Sources say Obama informed Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki on the news via a secure video conference. The president and the state department feel Iraq will be able to handle its own security.

"We do have confidence that they can provide security. We've been working hard to build that capability over many years, and I think what we've seen in this drawdown is that they are able to meet some of these challenges," said Mark Toner of the U.S. State Department.

More than 4,400 American military members have been killed since the U.S. invaded Iraq in March 2003. There are 39,000 U.S. troops in Iraq as of this week, and the monthly cost of the war was estimated at nearly $4 billion.

The president says after Jan. 1, 2012, the U.S. will deal with Iraq as a partner and continue to work to provide stability in the region.

Obama also said the next step is to continue the drawdown of troops in Afghanistan.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/national_world&id=8400841