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| Subject: Chaz Bono and Johnny Weir Mon Apr 26, 2010 12:49 pm | |
| Talk about "opposite day"... | |
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| Subject: Re: Chaz Bono and Johnny Weir Mon Apr 26, 2010 1:09 pm | |
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| Subject: Re: Chaz Bono and Johnny Weir Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:03 pm | |
| - MARQO wrote:
- Talk about "opposite day"...
Perfect way to describe it. | |
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| Subject: Re: Chaz Bono and Johnny Weir Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:21 pm | |
| Chasity Bono actually wants a judge to declare her "legally" male. You can't and never will change your biological DNA, I don't give a damn how much you feel like man. Chick needs a reality check.
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| Subject: Re: Chaz Bono and Johnny Weir Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:54 pm | |
| I really try to be sensitive and hold back on the judgement of transgendered people, but I do have issues with it from a broad stance.
Many transgendered people will say things like "I've always felt like someone of the opposite gender." How do they know what someone of the opposite gender "feels" like? It would make more sense for them to just say that they never felt a connection to the social perception of my own gender...or "I feel like how I perceive the opposite gender to be."
And like Nystyle said, you can't change DNA. If you were born a male or female, then no matter how many hormones and gender realignment surgeries you have, you will remain what you came into the world as. Beyond that, men and women are structurally different in common traits. Men tend to have broader, edgier, more rectangular bone structure. When a man becomes a woman, sorry but 8 times out of 10, "she" still physically differs from the average natural woman...despite the presence of artificial breasts and manmade vadge.
I just don't UNDERSTAND the idea of wanting to be a....forgive the insensitive reference...."makeshift" member of the opposite gender.
Again I'm not trying to be insensitive. These are just my thoughts of the whole male-to-female...female-to-male...thing. | |
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| Subject: Re: Chaz Bono and Johnny Weir Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:14 am | |
| - NIKOL99 wrote:
- I really try to be sensitive and hold back on the judgement of transgendered people, but I do have issues with it from a broad stance.
Many transgendered people will say things like "I've always felt like someone of the opposite gender." How do they know what someone of the opposite gender "feels" like? It would make more sense for them to just say that they never felt a connection to the social perception of my own gender...or "I feel like how I perceive the opposite gender to be."
And like Nystyle said, you can't change DNA. If you were born a male or female, then no matter how many hormones and gender realignment surgeries you have, you will remain what you came into the world as. Beyond that, men and women are structurally different in common traits. Men tend to have broader, edgier, more rectangular bone structure. When a man becomes a woman, sorry but 8 times out of 10, "she" still physically differs from the average natural woman...despite the presence of artificial breasts and manmade vadge.
I just don't UNDERSTAND the idea of wanting to be a....forgive the insensitive reference...."makeshift" member of the opposite gender.
Again I'm not trying to be insensitive. These are just my thoughts of the whole male-to-female...female-to-male...thing. Not insensitive, it's the damn truth. If you're a gay male or female, be a proud gay man or woman and leave it at that. Why have all these surgeries and hormone injections and whatnot when it's NEVER going completely change you? You're putting your body under unnecessary strain and risking your health. Honestly, I think they should ban gender realignment surgeries. Like I said, be proud of what you are and leave it at that. | |
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| Subject: Re: Chaz Bono and Johnny Weir Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:50 am | |
| - NIKOL99 wrote:
- I really try to be sensitive and hold back on the judgement of transgendered people, but I do have issues with it from a broad stance.
Many transgendered people will say things like "I've always felt like someone of the opposite gender." How do they know what someone of the opposite gender "feels" like? It would make more sense for them to just say that they never felt a connection to the social perception of my own gender...or "I feel like how I perceive the opposite gender to be."
And like Nystyle said, you can't change DNA. If you were born a male or female, then no matter how many hormones and gender realignment surgeries you have, you will remain what you came into the world as. Beyond that, men and women are structurally different in common traits. Men tend to have broader, edgier, more rectangular bone structure. When a man becomes a woman, sorry but 8 times out of 10, "she" still physically differs from the average natural woman...despite the presence of artificial breasts and manmade vadge.
I just don't UNDERSTAND the idea of wanting to be a....forgive the insensitive reference...."makeshift" member of the opposite gender.
Again I'm not trying to be insensitive. These are just my thoughts of the whole male-to-female...female-to-male...thing. True but Chaz looks like a man. Men who become women usually don't look believable but for some reason women who become men do. | |
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| Subject: Re: Chaz Bono and Johnny Weir Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:28 am | |
| - Äcem® wrote:
- NIKOL99 wrote:
- I really try to be sensitive and hold back on the judgement of transgendered people, but I do have issues with it from a broad stance.
Many transgendered people will say things like "I've always felt like someone of the opposite gender." How do they know what someone of the opposite gender "feels" like? It would make more sense for them to just say that they never felt a connection to the social perception of my own gender...or "I feel like how I perceive the opposite gender to be."
And like Nystyle said, you can't change DNA. If you were born a male or female, then no matter how many hormones and gender realignment surgeries you have, you will remain what you came into the world as. Beyond that, men and women are structurally different in common traits. Men tend to have broader, edgier, more rectangular bone structure. When a man becomes a woman, sorry but 8 times out of 10, "she" still physically differs from the average natural woman...despite the presence of artificial breasts and manmade vadge.
I just don't UNDERSTAND the idea of wanting to be a....forgive the insensitive reference...."makeshift" member of the opposite gender.
Again I'm not trying to be insensitive. These are just my thoughts of the whole male-to-female...female-to-male...thing.
True but Chaz looks like a man. Men who become women usually don't look believable but for some reason women who become men do. I disagree about Men who become Women, I have seen transvestites and transsexuals that look so much like a woman its impossible to tell that they are not. | |
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| Subject: Re: Chaz Bono and Johnny Weir Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:11 pm | |
| He still looks like a female to me. Just uber butch. But hey, I won't hate. | |
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