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Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

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Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Chris Thu May 12, 2011 7:59 am

http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/10/texas-senate-approves-college-concealed-carry-bill/

Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill
By: Kayla Webley

On Monday, the Texas Senate approved a bill that, if passed, would allow those with concealed handgun licenses to carry weapons in public college buildings and classrooms.

Supporters of the controversial legislation, which now heads to the state's House for a vote, say carrying guns on campus is a self-defense measure, one that could allow students to fight back in school shootings like those at Virginia Tech in 2007 and Northern Illinois University in 2008. Those against the bill, including administrators at the University of Texas system, worry the law could lead to more campus crime and suicides.

According to the AP, guns on campus bills have been rejected in at least 23 states since 2007. Last month, a similar bill passed in Arizona, but Gov. Jan Brewer used her veto power to stop it from becoming a law. She said while she generally supports allowing people to carry their weapons in a wider range of places, the legislation was poorly written.

But gun-control advocates aren't likely to see a similar result with Texas Gov. Rick Perry if the bill clears the House and heads to his desk for a signature. The gun-loving governor, who has voiced support for the bill, once famously shot a coyote with a laser-sighted pistol while he was jogging with his dog.

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by RobbieFTW Thu May 12, 2011 10:12 am

In Texas they allow kids to take guns to school and make women get sonograms before they get abortions. Remind me to never go there! deranged

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by MandyPerfumeGirl Thu May 12, 2011 10:59 am

Oh good idea, that's what we need, more weapons on college campuses - why didn't I think of that? eye roll

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Kral Thu May 12, 2011 11:01 am

I guess the words "Columbine" and "Virginia Tech" means nothing to these backwoods Texan politicians.

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Friendly Veteran Thu May 12, 2011 12:03 pm

Kids? They are not kids. They are adults so as such they should be allowed to carry a gun for self defensse if they want to.

Now, I do not know the exact writing of the law. I am not sure if the bill will ALLOW carrying guns into a college campus. If this is the case I think the campus still has the option of allowing or not.

In other words I am allow to do something, that does not mean I have to do that.

The right to bear arms is a matter of freedom and as such those adult (not kids) students should be allowed to carry a gun for their protection.

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Supernova Thu May 12, 2011 12:42 pm

Kral wrote:I guess the words "Columbine" and "Virginia Tech" means nothing to these backwoods Texan politicians.

Apparently it does because in the article it mentions the students at VA Tech not being able to defend themselves. Now they're not saying give everybody a gun, they're saying ones with licenses ALREADY, which means people who have passed background checks, and yes sometimes a few nuts slip through those cracks but if you ban guns ONLY the nuts will have them, so it's better this way. Normal, law abiding citizens are NOT going to go psycho and shoot everybody JUST because they CAN conceal their guns when they go to class; the only ones who ARE going to do that are the ones who have no regard for the law in the first place. So I really don't see how this is a problem.

It's a safe bet that people like the VA Tech gunman KNEW the other students would legally have to be unarmed, hence sitting ducks, if the nutsos KNOW the other students are packing and could shoot him first, maybe they'll think twice before they try to blow everyone away, or maybe somebody else can shoot him first before we have a 30+ body count.

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Nystyle709 Thu May 12, 2011 6:27 pm

Be on the lookout for Texas having the most 'accidental' shooting incidents.

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Supernova Thu May 12, 2011 7:28 pm

Nystyle709 wrote:Be on the lookout for Texas having the most 'accidental' shooting incidents.

Except the people in question ALREADY are allowed to conceal and carry, so how is them doing it on campus going to be any different?

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Nystyle709 Thu May 12, 2011 7:45 pm

Supernova wrote:

Nystyle709 wrote:Be on the lookout for Texas having the most 'accidental' shooting incidents.

Except the people in question ALREADY are allowed to conceal and carry, so how is them doing it on campus going to be any different?

People with handguns licenses are NOT allow to conceal and carry anywhere they please like you seem to think. There are places that ban concealed weapons for a reason regardless of what kind of gun license you have. They can only carry where it's allowed. And a college campus needs to be a place where it's not allowed. I think it's completely insane to use the VA Tech massacre as a reason to allow them to carry guns on campus. First of all, those students did not KNOW they were going to in the middle of a shooting that day. So them having a gun on them is irrelevant....that wouldn't have stopped the gunman from going on his rampage. People who shoot at cops with the intention of killing a cop knows that the cop has a gun and they still attempt to wound him. So how are you going to say that if the students had a gun that he would've been stopped? Or that the gunman would've known better than to shoot up the school? That's crazy. Second of all, they may be adults...but it's also a school. Do you know how easily something can pop off, then escalate because a gun is involved? It's a can of worms that does not need to be opened.

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Supernova Thu May 12, 2011 7:58 pm

So the answer is just leave it so only the criminals can illegally bring guns to school and everybody else can just have a bulls eye on their back?

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Nystyle709 Thu May 12, 2011 8:12 pm

Supernova wrote:So the answer is just leave it so only the criminals can illegally bring guns to school and everybody else can just have a bulls eye on their back?

LOL. Listen to yourself. Are school shootings a regular occurrence where you live or something? Smaller incidents that can pop off would be a MUCH bigger and more regular occurrence than some nut coming in with an illegal weapon and performing a mass murder. That is NOT a reason to justify anyone (gun license or not) to carry on a SCHOOL CAMPUS. You can't carry in a department store. You can't carry at a movie theater. So most people who do have gun licenses do not carry when they're out in public. You have a bulls eye on your back every time you step out of the house and being allowed to carry is not going to prevent that. Criminals who obtain illegal guns is a GUN CONTROL issue. It's a legal issue. The person at VA Tech should not have been able to get a AK-47 in the first place. The answer to that is not to allow people to carry a damn handgun to school.

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Re: Texas Senate Approves College Concealed Carry Bill

by Supernova Thu May 12, 2011 8:22 pm

Except he wasn't allowed to and he did anyway, and from that one we had the highest body count in a school shooting in the country's history.

Now, what about teachers? Teachers are a lot older than the students, presumably more responsible (ha ha), should they be allowed to carry on campus or are even the teachers just going to run around the building shooting everyone?