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    Are you guilty of 'inflicting' your religion on other people?

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    Post by Chris Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:23 am

    This includes Atheism as well.

    When it comes to your religion/spiritual beliefs, are you ever guilty of subjecting your beliefs and/or philosophies onto someone who didn't ask you for it?
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    Post by CeCe Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:34 am

    This has always been the thing with me. Practice any religion or none at all. But apply it to your own life.

    And no, calling for the rights of people is not inflicting beliefs on anyone. But trying to deny those rights by passing them into law...is.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:47 am

    Everyone inflicts their beliefs onto others regardless of whether or not they agree. (Unless they are truly living like a hermit.) Usually it's the people who insist the loudest that they don't inflict their beliefs, and accuse others of doing it the loudest, are the most guilty of it. Everyone just thinks that they are exempt from the rules they place on others.

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    Post by DanaShelbyChancey Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:50 am

    No, I can't say so. I don't follow an organized religion, so there is nothing to invite them to! I simply have my own beliefs, and philosophies, I am not an atheist, but I don't talk about them, unless someone asks.

    Just an anecdote, a girl I work with got married awhile ago. She didn't invite someone I thought was a good work-friend of hers. She did invite some people I didn't realize she was that close to. I have a hunch, the reason was, the uninvitee's husband is a Jehovah's Witness, and she didn't want that at her wedding.
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    Post by (Oh!) Rob Petrie Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:03 am

    Not really, no. I don't bring it up unless somebody asks.
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    Post by JM130ELM Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:04 am

    Forgiveness Man wrote:Everyone inflicts their beliefs onto others regardless of whether or not they agree. (Unless they are truly living like a hermit.) Usually it's the people who insist the loudest that they don't inflict their beliefs, and accuse others of doing it the loudest, are the most guilty of it. Everyone just thinks that they are exempt from the rules they place on others.


    In other words, the answer is yes you do.
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    Post by (Oh!) Rob Petrie Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:07 am

    Forgiveness Man wrote:Everyone inflicts their beliefs onto others regardless of whether or not they agree. (Unless they are truly living like a hermit.) Usually it's the people who insist the loudest that they don't inflict their beliefs, and accuse others of doing it the loudest, are the most guilty of it. Everyone just thinks that they are exempt from the rules they place on others.


    This is the most circular argument ever.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:56 am

    ^^^^It's hardly circular. It's true. The people truly tolerant of others don't have to go around shouting it. Those who feel the need to shout it tend to be the worst offenders. You only call it circular cause it probably applies to you.


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    Forgiveness Man wrote:Everyone inflicts their beliefs onto others regardless of whether or not they agree. (Unless they are truly living like a hermit.) Usually it's the people who insist the loudest that they don't inflict their beliefs, and accuse others of doing it the loudest, are the most guilty of it. Everyone just thinks that they are exempt from the rules they place on others.


    In other words, the answer is yes you do.
    The point is that everyone does. So yeah, I do to a point. And so do you. And so does everyone on this forum. Heck, this very thread is already revealing people making excuses for doing it and trying to reason that it isn't the same thing. People tend to always think that their inflictions are somehow not inflictions.

    So yeah, you and me both do it. Everyone does. There are different degrees. But anyone who says that they don't do this at all is either deluded or is lying. This isn't even saying that infliction itself is wrong. I never said it was. This isn't about right and wrong. IMO, this is merely calling a cigar, a cigar. And human nature causes every person to inflict their views on others to some degree. Only way out of this is to be a hermit.(In other words, interact with nobody) But your views are too much a part of you for you to not inflict them on others.
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    Post by (Oh!) Rob Petrie Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:10 am

    Well, then. I guess you're just missing the fact that you're being accusatory with your post. Because the person you describe in it is you.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:18 am

    Rockbird wrote:Well, then. I guess you're just missing the fact that you're being accusatory with your post. Because the person you describe in it is you.

    I fully admit that I inflict my views on others at times. It's human nature. And you do too, as does everyone here. I guess YOU missed that. lol

    In other words, the point is that this entire thread is little different than asking if somebody has ever gone on The Conversation Chamber. Wink People can either be honest about it or they can live in denial. I don't live in denial about human nature. Apparently, most do. So no, it's not at all circular. It's just common sense.

    BTW, I never said infliction itself was wrong in all cases. Razz
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    Post by (Oh!) Rob Petrie Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:25 am

    Seems rather insulting on your part.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:30 am

    Rockbird wrote:Seems rather insulting on your part.
    Only seems that way to people who want to see it that way. The truth is that it's merely acknowledging that humans push their beliefs on others they encounter. (Admittedly, to varying degrees) I didn't say it was a good thing or a bad thing. It's neither complimentary or insulting.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:29 pm

    No, I don't. Plain and simple. To say otherwise is proof that you don't know me.
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    Post by DanaShelbyChancey Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:43 pm

    Well, the question specified my religious beliefs, which I still think, I do not press on anyone.

    Other beliefs, I probably do!
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    Post by Shale Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:50 pm

    CeCe wrote:This has always been the thing with me. Practice any religion or none at all. But apply it to your own life.

    And no, calling for the rights of people is not inflicting beliefs on anyone. But trying to deny those rights by passing them into law...is.
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    Yes, I am quite political when others try to force me into their belief system and Christians are the worst in this country for not even seeing that "so help me god" at the end of an oath or "In god we trust" as a national motto or "under god" in the pledge to the flag is forcing THEIR belief onto a supposed secular society.

    And, If I object get accused of forcing my belief on others.
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    Post by Nystyle709 Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:11 pm

    I don't think I have a religion. So no.
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    Post by Marc™ Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:24 pm

    Nope. I don't care enough about religion to burden anyone with it.
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    Post by captainbryce Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:17 pm

    Forgiveness Man wrote:Everyone inflicts their beliefs onto others regardless of whether or not they agree. (Unless they are truly living like a hermit.) Usually it's the people who insist the loudest that they don't inflict their beliefs, and accuse others of doing it the loudest, are the most guilty of it. Everyone just thinks that they are exempt from the rules they place on others.

    Wow, imagine that! How did I know that YOU "the conservative" would be the ONE person on here who thinks that not only is pushing your beliefs onto other people NORMAL, but that such an act is also justified? Its amazingly weird just how pyschic I can be sometimes huh. big grin

    Here's a reality check for you though, I DON'T inflict my beliefs on other people (and I doubt most other liberals do either). It's generally the conservatives (and more specifically the evangelical movement) that insists on doing that (through legistlature of all things)! Not to single you out and not that I'm accusing you of being in this crowd, but I find it really disgusting how people try to justify forcing their religious convictions on others in such a way. Because it's really not a whole lot differet from what groups like the Taliban does in other parts of the world (minus the violence of course).

    Forgiveness Man wrote:The point is that everyone does. So yeah, I do to a point. And so do you. And so does everyone on this forum. Heck, this very thread is already revealing people making excuses for doing it and trying to reason that it isn't the same thing.
    Uh, no everyone does NOT do that. YOU do that! But here is a part that you missed, we are talking about RELIGIOUS views here. Nobody on this thread has inflicted their religious views on ANYBODY, so that was not a valid comparrison. Secondly, there is a difference from people saying that they think forcing their religious views on other people is WRONG and saying that they don't do this, than inflicting views on other people. There is a differece between DECLAIRING views and INFLICTING them. Voting to make gay marraige illegal because it's against your religion is INFLICTING your views on other people.
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    Post by Cheaps Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:02 am

    no
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    Post by femme fatale Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:19 pm

    No not my style. I may talk about it in passing as far as what I'M doing but I never talk at people about religion & faith and Gods way.
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    Post by GrayWolf Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:30 am

    No that's not my style, especially not religion of all things. I shy away from forcing my beliefs on people because I can't bear it being done to me.

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