What do you think, do the naysayers have a point?
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True Life: I Wish I Were Straight
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True Life: I Wish I Were Straight
MTV recently aired an episode of True Life that profiled a gay man and a lesbian who wished they were straight, and were seeking 'help' in hopes of making that desire a possibility. Unsurprisingly, the episode has generated criticism from people who say that MTV was acting irresponsibly by airing it, because of the negative message it sent.
What do you think, do the naysayers have a point?
What do you think, do the naysayers have a point?
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Yes. It's also more evidence that it's not a "choice".
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How is it sending a negative message by portraying people who wish to change? What about tolerance for what others want to do? It can't be sending a negative message by showing people exercising their CHOICE to seek help, right? (Not that I have any confidence in their portrayal of said help. It is MTV afterall. lol) Negative messages? More like even appearing to be going against the societal status quo (which I doubt it even will).
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MTV was very irresponsible & should have known better.
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I agree that they should've known better. They couldn't have thought the intolerant media would just let this slide. You can't show all sides of an issue, only those the media deems socially acceptable. MTV of all networks should know that.CeCe wrote:MTV was very irresponsible & should have known better.
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I saw that and couldnt believe MTV of all places would show something like that since they have a reputation for being gay friendly. I dont think it should have aired. No confused and scared gay teen should have seen that crap.
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How did it end? Did the two of them ultimately say that whatever they tried didn't work?
If that is the case, I wouldn't think it was a bad thing to be aired. I am sure there are a lot of young, afraid gay kids who do think sometimes that there might be a way for them to at least feel some desire for the opposite sex.
If that is the case, I wouldn't think it was a bad thing to be aired. I am sure there are a lot of young, afraid gay kids who do think sometimes that there might be a way for them to at least feel some desire for the opposite sex.
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RedBedroom wrote:How did it end? Did the two of them ultimately say that whatever they tried didn't work?
If that is the case, I wouldn't think it was a bad thing to be aired. I am sure there are a lot of young, afraid gay kids who do think sometimes that there might be a way for them to at least feel some desire for the opposite sex.
There are, and the last thing they need to be told is that they need to change. What they really need is acceptance. To know that there's nothing wrong with who they are. People would freak if there were a show telling people they needed to change from straight to gay. Our sexuality isn't a choice. It isn't the people who are gay that need to change, it's everyone else trying to make them into someone other than who they are.
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MTV also airs documentaries about who do drugs and get drunk every night. There are people out there who undergo all this therapy to trick themselves into thinking they are straight. I don't think MTV is necessarily endorsing it.
I think people need to sit down and relax.
I think people need to sit down and relax.
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There are, and the last thing they need to be told is that they need to change. What they really need is acceptance. To know that there's nothing wrong with who they are. People would freak if there were a show telling people they needed to change from straight to gay. Our sexuality isn't a choice. It isn't the people who are gay that need to change, it's everyone else trying to make them into someone other than who they are.
People would freak (just like they are freaking now. People like to freak), but the network could still air it. I'd actually think it would be a bigger joke and it would make the movement look bad. lol I would be a funny special.
Our sexuality isn't a choice but choosing to pursue it is. If you need to have your choice accepted, then I say you're the one with doubts. You don't need acceptance. They don't need acceptance. Nobody needs acceptance of their choices. Acceptance is not a right. And you will never get acceptance by namecalling and insulting the people who don't accept you. We tell our kids not to care about what others think yet we act like they have a right to acceptance. People don't need acceptance if they are truly confident and comfortable in what they've chosen to do. If you are confident that there is nothing wrong with you, then why do you need people to tell you that you're right? If you are content with yourself, you shouldn't need acceptance.
The show portrayed a different side of people CHOOSING some course of action. The fact that people are offended by a choice that goes against their ideas shows me how hypocritical they are. Especially considering that the network likely isn't even promoting it and probably would be discouraging it if it wasn't working. People seem to enjoy getting upset over nothing. Touchy America. lol
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They couldn't pray it away?
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Nystyle709 wrote:They couldn't pray it away?
That just works for ice cream.
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Chris wrote:MTV recently aired an episode of True Life that profiled a gay man and a lesbian who wished they were straight, and were seeking 'help' in hopes of making that desire a possibility. Unsurprisingly, the episode has generated criticism from people who say that MTV was acting irresponsibly by airing it, because of the negative message it sent.
What do you think, do the naysayers have a point?
Here's political-correctedness at its best again!
MTV could air a show about a gay man wanting to "come out", or want surgery to become female, and that would be fully acceptable. Present a different side to those who are NOT comfortable in their own skin, and people are shitting their pants.
Well, guess what? There ARE some gays out there who wish they weren't (I know, I've had some male gay friends). Do they not have the same rights to voice THEIR feelings?
Such bullshit.
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Bluesmama wrote:
Here's political-correctedness at its best again!
MTV could air a show about a gay man wanting to "come out", or want surgery to become female, and that would be fully acceptable. Present a different side to those who are NOT comfortable in their own skin, and people are shitting their pants.
Well, guess what? There ARE some gays out there who wish they weren't (I know, I've had some male gay friends). Do they not have the same rights to voice THEIR feelings?
Such bullshit.
Apples and oranges. Changing one's gender is hardly the same as NOT wanting to have sex with someone of the same sex.
Anyone can have sex with whom they choose. You simply can't change your gender. Anyway, these people need help, but they need help to just accept who they are not try to do what they think is "acceptable" to society.
Do I think MTV was irresponsible? Not really. It's someone's POV about himself.
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I hear ya. We might have changed what's in the comfort zone, but society still doesn't like to leave it.Bluesmama wrote:Here's political-correctedness at its best again!
MTV could air a show about a gay man wanting to "come out", or want surgery to become female, and that would be fully acceptable. Present a different side to those who are NOT comfortable in their own skin, and people are shitting their pants.
Well, guess what? There ARE some gays out there who wish they weren't (I know, I've had some male gay friends). Do they not have the same rights to voice THEIR feelings?
Such bullshit.
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I didnt see it. I agree that people need to have tolerance for others' differences, but i also think that people should respect others' opinions. I see no problem with showing someone's feeling or struggle with issues, whether it be sexuality, drugs, family issues, disease, money problems, self esteem issues etc
and NO -- im not comparing homosexuality to a disease, im stating that how one chooses to deal with circumstances of life, and how they feel about it should not be censored
and NO -- im not comparing homosexuality to a disease, im stating that how one chooses to deal with circumstances of life, and how they feel about it should not be censored
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Bluesmama wrote:
Here's political-correctedness at its best again!
MTV could air a show about a gay man wanting to "come out", or want surgery to become female, and that would be fully acceptable. Present a different side to those who are NOT comfortable in their own skin, and people are shitting their pants.
Well, guess what? There ARE some gays out there who wish they weren't (I know, I've had some male gay friends). Do they not have the same rights to voice THEIR feelings?
Such bullshit.
I'm curious as to why your gay friends wished they weren't gay.
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tmontyb wrote:
Anyone can have sex with whom they choose. You simply can't change your gender. Anyway, these people need help, but they need help to just accept who they are not try to do what they think is "acceptable" to society.
This is the thing that concerns me most. The profound pressure some of theses kids are under & often with no one to turn to. One Seth Walsh is one too many. I think society has to shake off the false idea that only one way is normal. And I agree with what you're saying. I think care needs to be taken to show both sides but not reinforce the idea for someone already struggling that they "need" to change. If that makes sense.
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I'm curious as to why your gay friends wished they weren't gay.
They weren't happy much of the time. Oh, they partied hardy and were sexually active (some more than others) but they always seemed conflicted. One guy in particular attracted a lot of women that were "sought after", and while they did nothing for him, I guess he viewed it as a wasted opportunity. Don't know beyond that. I didn't pry, considering it all a very personal thing.
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Chris wrote:MTV recently aired an episode of True Life that profiled a gay man and a lesbian who wished they were straight, and were seeking 'help' in hopes of making that desire a possibility. Unsurprisingly, the episode has generated criticism from people who say that MTV was acting irresponsibly by airing it, because of the negative message it sent.
What do you think, do the naysayers have a point?
No. True Life is supposed to be a documentary on real people, and where they're coming from. If there are gays out there who want to not be gay, then that's their story. Not everything has to positive or uplifting in order to "true".
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