I hope this is sniveling Starr Thornhart's last stand!

Me too because I am getting pretty sick of it. She only acts that way with Cole and always making excuses for him just like Marty.

Cole has completely destroyed Starr but I hope once he's gone, we'll get Starr MANNING back! She'll never be the same as she was prior to Cole, though.

In my mind, Starr was destroyed before she was even allowed to fully develop into her own character. Honestly, she was already being dismantled prior to taking up with him. Starr was forever changed after she ran away to meet Travis in New York. Then I recall her little cute-sy crush on Hispanic Ricky, who had to ride to her rescue when she was being bullied by a bunch of rich kids.

Starr went from being a brash, gutsy hellion–who would assist Todd in his schemes–to a generic teen ingenue who cries over the guy. Puberty is what wrecked Starr Manning, Eyebrows Thornhart just cemented it.

I ff mostly all scenes yesterday with Starr and Cole, didn't want to witness a potato faced cole crying or Starr whining and sniveling, glad I missed it. I don't think Starr will ever be the way she was, she has grown up now and she is a mother.

resourceful and spunky starr manning is forever gone. she is headed toward jessica territory.

Yeah - I fear that Starr Manning will never come back. Maybe Dani will turn out to be that feisty, spunky, fiery girl that Starr once was. I barely watch the Stale scenes, either, and never have. They make me sick and knowing what Coal has done to Starr makes is even worse. At least she'll soon be free of that creature of destruction.

John makes every woman he's with BORING/ Cole makes the whole world BORED... These two should of been Father and Son.

Cole & John really do deserve each other! Both are criminals who put their own needs before the needsof the women they claim to live. Neither has a conscience and neither has a heart.