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by Hyacinth Girl Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:47 am
Yep, if you don't like America and how we do stuff here, then go back to where you came from!
Oh, my bad--I forgot--we're supposed to recognize your "rights", even though it seems illegal immigrants have more rights than those of us who are citizens.
Well, get a friggin' job, learn English, get some birth control and stop freeloading off the rest of us who were born here, then there'll be reason to address your "rights".
Oh, my bad--I forgot--we're supposed to recognize your "rights", even though it seems illegal immigrants have more rights than those of us who are citizens.
Well, get a friggin' job, learn English, get some birth control and stop freeloading off the rest of us who were born here, then there'll be reason to address your "rights".
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I was a big supporter of Obama in the first election. (I was even one of those little blades of grass that donated money for his election) While I will vote for him again out of default, I have been disappointed in the many traditional stances he took instead of the change we all were promised.
Like that whole Rev. Wright debacle where it took him forever to go against his traditional religious leader who is a homophobe & anti-semite. And not pushing to get rid of DADT sooner, leaving it up to the courts to decide - then having the justice dept. fight it.
I hate politics because one must sell themselves out to survive all the different factions. But, sometimes a democrat should just stay true to principles even if it is for one term.
Jimmy Carter was the only honorable president in my lifetime. That has very little currency politically, but some of us find honor important.
Obama - Do The Right Thing!
Like that whole Rev. Wright debacle where it took him forever to go against his traditional religious leader who is a homophobe & anti-semite. And not pushing to get rid of DADT sooner, leaving it up to the courts to decide - then having the justice dept. fight it.
I hate politics because one must sell themselves out to survive all the different factions. But, sometimes a democrat should just stay true to principles even if it is for one term.
Jimmy Carter was the only honorable president in my lifetime. That has very little currency politically, but some of us find honor important.
Obama - Do The Right Thing!
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by Nystyle709 Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:21 am
Forgiveness Man wrote:@NYStyle: Very easily. lol Both are true statements so I can say it easily.
How though? The economy is totally in the dumps and you have no problem citing Obama as the reason for it since he's the sitting president, but Clinton presided over the best economic development this country's history and he sucks?
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by Nystyle709 Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:22 am
Alan Smithee wrote:
That's a rhetorical question?
Somewhat.
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by Forgiveness Man Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:24 am
^^^^I actually don't blame Obama just because he's the sitting president. And Clinton's economic "growth" was heavily overstated. (But, not getting into that here) But that's beside the point. Clinton's suckage was largely due to other reasons. The major point is that as much as Clinton sucked, Obama sucks worse. 
The guy is just falling apart.
The guy is just falling apart.
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by Nystyle709 Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:28 am
Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^I actually don't blame Obama just because he's the sitting president. And Clinton's economic "growth" was heavily overstated. (But, not getting into that here) But that's beside the point. Clinton's suckage was largely due to other reasons. The major point is that as much as Clinton sucked, Obama sucks worse.The guy is just falling apart.
22 million jobs were created, not kept, but created during his presidency. He was paying down the federal deficit. Welfare reform was enacted. We had a surplus (meaning we were bringing in more more than we were spending). What's is overstated about that dear? Is is not true? What are the other reasons that make Clinton suck? And how does Obama suck worse?
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by Nystyle709 Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:33 am
Alan Smithee wrote:Another reason for me to vote for him. I might be a little more sympathetic to them if THEIR FUCKING SIGNS WERE IN ENGLISH
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by Forgiveness Man Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:48 am
^^^^Why are you so defensive about Clinton? 
One comment and you're all the rage?
And how does Obama suck worse? Watch the news. The guy is not a leader.
One comment and you're all the rage? And how does Obama suck worse? Watch the news.
The guy is not a leader.
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by Nystyle709 Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:56 am
Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^Why are you so defensive about Clinton?One comment and you're all the rage?
Defensive?So that's what you're going to resort to, eh? I'm giving you reasons why Clinton didn't suck. You haven't given me a single reason why he did. Then as a mechanism to avoid answering the question, you think I'm being defensive. But oh well.
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And how does Obama suck worse? Watch the news.
Assume I don't watch the news. I want you to tell me how. Give me examples, if you can.
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by Forgiveness Man Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:11 pm
^^^^You've given me a bunch of post hoc propter ergo hoc fallacies that I really have no interest in. They happened during a Republican congress so people could attribute that to them on the same logic as others do to Clinton. Or people could say how by the time he left office, the economy had turned the other way. (I had a liberal extremist teacher even admit this. lol) Not to mention the guy was not very impressive on defense. And he was out to lunch on social issues. (Although, granted, better than Obama) This thread isn't about Clinton. You're off topic and you know it. I have no interest in engaging your fallacies about Clinton.
Well you kept pointing out all of these great things Clinton did, all on his own. What's Obama done good? His entire presidency has been one disaster after another. From healthcare, to the bailouts, to the stimulus, to his empty promises, to the guy's total arrogant cluelessness everytime somebody gives him a microphone. The guy's numbers are in the tank cause America realizes what an empty suit Obama is. Obama just has failed on all levels, and people are realizing it. (Hence the low numbers.)
I have no interest in engaging your fallacies about Clinton.Well you kept pointing out all of these great things Clinton did, all on his own. What's Obama done good? His entire presidency has been one disaster after another. From healthcare, to the bailouts, to the stimulus, to his empty promises, to the guy's total arrogant cluelessness everytime somebody gives him a microphone. The guy's numbers are in the tank cause America realizes what an empty suit Obama is. Obama just has failed on all levels, and people are realizing it. (Hence the low numbers.)
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by Alan Smithee Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:13 pm
Bill Clinton didn't suck. Monica Lewinsky sucked and that's about the worst thing I can say about him.
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by Forgiveness Man Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:44 pm
They both sucked! They both sucked majorly! Clinton was a joke. But I guess I gotta give the guy some credit. In just about all aspects, he is better than Mr. O. (And his prompter too.Alan Smithee wrote:Bill Clinton didn't suck. Monica Lewinsky sucked and that's about the worst thing I can say about him.
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Alan Smithee wrote:Bill Clinton didn't suck. Monica Lewinsky sucked and that's about the worst thing I can say about him.
True, but even then gotta give some slack.
Middle aged man - 19-yr-old groupie wants to go down on you. Let's get an opinion from any of our '70s rock stars on that one.
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by Alan Smithee Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:13 pm
Opa Shale wrote:
True, but even then gotta give some slack.
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It was very stupid on his part (the lying about it) but for the country to be held hostage for all that time with the hearings and impeachment? Bullshit. Worse thing should have been for his name to entire the lexicon as being synonymous with "blow job".
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This is what happens when you change the rules, once the democrats threw Hilary under the bus having experience was no longer needed and people of color was so happy to see a face they can identify with crack heads were running to the polls to vote for him{i am a poll worker in NYC} all while he ran he did not speak about AA or there needs and with unemployment in the AA communities hovering around 20% he still does not address it. All the evil things he stated that GW was doing he must enjoy as he has continued most of the policies including spying on Americans citizens. He must realize that his ROCK STAR attitude{everybody loves me} needs to hit a reality check and change we can believe in has turn into hiring every one who Clinton had on staff with Biden being VP because he needs all the lime light{Obama}{Hilary should have been VP}she could have helped him hit the ground running, instead he was held hostage by his own party for the health care bill only passing it after Scott Brown won Teddy's old seat in MA. He should just admit it is a bit overwhelming he could have had help in the Clintons but the rock star can't share the stage. So here he stands looking like the man he is very intelligent personable and and more than capable however experience does count and he had none 
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If I remember correctly, in an interview MTV during the elections, the President adamantly stated that we have to be stricter on immigration. Where is this coming from? I thought Obama was always pro-stricter immigration laws, particularly when it came to the labor force.
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I am not the least bit surprised nor worried for that matter. In fact the Gallup editor in chief, Frank Newport said about a month ago that President Obama's approval rating was surprising given the state of the economy. And President Obama angered progressive/liberal/Democrats and we've had a scary week on wall street since then. So I kind of figured it would be coming.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2011/0719/Gallup-chief-puzzled-by-Obama-s-poll-numbers
But I don't think I'll start worrying until his numbers look more like this.
http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2009/02/08/the-daily-graphic-george-w-bush-approval-rating-over-eight-years/
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2011/0719/Gallup-chief-puzzled-by-Obama-s-poll-numbers
But I don't think I'll start worrying until his numbers look more like this.
http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2009/02/08/the-daily-graphic-george-w-bush-approval-rating-over-eight-years/
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Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^You've given me a bunch of post hoc propter ergo hoc fallacies that I really have no interest in. They happened during a Republican congress so people could attribute that to them on the same logic as others do to Clinton. Or people could say how by the time he left office, the economy had turned the other way. (I had a liberal extremist teacher even admit this. lol) Not to mention the guy was not very impressive on defense. And he was out to lunch on social issues. (Although, granted, better than Obama) This thread isn't about Clinton. You're off topic and you know it.
No, what I've given you were facts that cannot be disputed and that you won't admit to because it doesn't help your argument any. Clinton presided over it. I didn't go off topic by asking you a question. Clinton wasn't impressive on defense? What did you want him to do, waste taxpayer money on senseless and needless wars and build weapons that destroy humanity and life? Lord knows we need more of that. And you still have YET to tell me exactly WHAT Clinton or Obama has done that makes them suck. But.....this is all my fault. I should've known better than to open this can of worms. You can't give examples. I knew you wouldn't. All you do is make baseless comments without backing them up. If I need any information on the Book of James or something like that, I'll be sure to come to you.
Well you kept pointing out all of these great things Clinton did, all on his own. What's Obama done good? His entire presidency has been one disaster after another. From healthcare, to the bailouts, to the stimulus, to his empty promises, to the guy's total arrogant cluelessness everytime somebody gives him a microphone. The guy's numbers are in the tank cause America realizes what an empty suit Obama is. Obama just has failed on all levels, and people are realizing it. (Hence the low numbers.)
He's kept this country from going into another Depression. The economy wasn't going to turn around in two years. It's not going to turn around in TEN years.
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This could very well be who he'll be running against in '12. Don't think history couldn't repeat itself (1992) but for the wrong outcome. "Let's all join hands, bow our heads and pray the economy gets better." Pres. Perry would be an idiot's delight.
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by Forgiveness Man Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:43 am
Obama's numbers aren't better than Bush's were. It took Bush into his second term to sink this low. lol
President Perry wouldn't be so bad. lol Better than Obama's regime has been. Obama's gonna become a bigger joke than Bush!
The guy is just the picture of a failure, with failed and outdated ideas.
President Perry wouldn't be so bad. lol Better than Obama's regime has been. Obama's gonna become a bigger joke than Bush!
The guy is just the picture of a failure, with failed and outdated ideas.
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by Tony Marino Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:12 am
Forgiveness Man wrote:Obama has never fencewalked and he never tried to please everyone (at least not once he was in office). (Although the guy has no inner Clinton. I think Clinton sucked and even I can admit that he could do circles around Obama.) Obama is just not a leader and that is what brought his numbers down. The guy doesn't bring anything to the table except "I'm not Bush" and that only gets you so far when the economy is tanking. I think America just sees that the man just doesn't live up to his words.
Clinton was one of the best Presidents this country ever had.
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by Forgiveness Man Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:18 am
No way, he was a joke. Clinton was probably one of our worst presidents ever. (Although after Obama, he's out of the running for THE worst.)Tony Marino wrote:
Clinton was one of the best Presidents this country ever had.
Of course, again, this thread is about Obama. Obama is an even bigger joke.
Obama's been a failure in just about everything. And his poll numbers are slowly, but surely, reflecting that. I think Obama was his own undoing too. Clinton was better at making himself look good than Obama is. 
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Tony Marino wrote:
Clinton was one of the best Presidents this country ever had.
Our lives in this country were so much better. I can remember actually being able to pay the bills without having to get creative & juggle them so much. Didn't appreciate that as much then as I do now.
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