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    Post by Chris Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:26 am

    What's your opinion of the AFA? Because of their ultra conservative stance, the amount of which they protest, and the things they publicly condemn (or find objectionable), they tend to be very controversial. Some even peg them as being akin to a 'hate' group, because of their general stance on things related to homosexuality. What do you think?
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:47 am

    If they are a hate group, so is every group on the left that advocates for what it believes in. IMO, the label "hate group" is just a bully tactic to belittle opposing viewpoints. The term seems to come with built-in excuses for double standards.

    I don't have a problem with the AFA. There are plenty of liberals groups to counteract them. So I don't see the problem.
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    Post by Shale Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:16 am

    I think they're a hate group.
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    Post by CeCe Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:58 am

    Shale wrote:I think they're a hate group.

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    Post by (Oh!) Rob Petrie Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:00 am

    Of course they're a hate group.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:07 am

    Every group somebody disagree's with (to a larger degree) is always a hate group. FORGIVENESS MAN I think it's funny.
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    Post by CeCe Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:23 am

    Any group of people whose purpose is to outright deny or hamper the rights of other people are a hate group. Of course there is the irony of having a high ranking member of that group being one of those very people him (or her) self.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:48 am

    CeCe wrote:Any group of people whose purpose is to outright deny or hamper the rights of other people are a hate group.
    And of course if you disagree with a group's cause, you always see it as hampering the rights of other people, regardless of whether or not it is. People love their excuses. As I said, it's funny to see.
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    Post by RiteDiva Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:24 pm

    From Sarah Posner of Religious Dispatches comes accusations of former employees who attests to the not-so Christian attitude of the so-called pro-family group and a lot of it has to do with the controversial Bryan Fischer:

    Fischer, who hosts a daily radio show on AFA’s radio network of 180 stations, has, among other things, claimed that inbreeding causes Muslims to be stupid and violent; called for the deportation of Muslims and for banning them from military service

    http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/10/12/former-employees-bash-american-family-association-for-racism-employee-abuse/


    Today the American Family Association sent out an email asking for people's opinion in the Republican campaign for 2012. Typical of the antigay AFA, commenter Angela Harper, noted these racist views on the American Family Association website. The AFA webpage http://www.afa.net/poll/ was asking for members to vote and solicited comments from members regarding their choices for President.

    Angela writes,
    "...And I don't mean to play the race card, but as an African-American, he would stand a better chance of getting the "black" vote. As things stand, most African-Americans are going to vote for Obama for the same reason they did in the last election....because they see him as a "brotha" and as a chance to continue receiving welfare..."

    http://www.changingtheplanet.com/2011/05/american-family-association-shows.html

    That pretty much says it all, I'd say.

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    Post by Nystyle709 Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:05 pm

    Them and the Westboro Baptist church need to be put on an island somewhere.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:24 pm

    Chris wrote:What's your opinion of the AFA? Because of their ultra conservative stance, the amount of which they protest, and the things they publicly condemn (or find objectionable), they tend to be very controversial. Some even peg them as being akin to a 'hate' group, because of their general stance on things related to homosexuality. What do you think?

    Chris, as a fellow Waldenbooks alum, I think we can be proud of this:

    In 1989 the AFA boycotted WaldenBooks in an attempt to persuade the company to stop selling Playboy and Penthouse magazines. As a result, WaldenBooks launched an advertisement campaign against censorship, asserting First Amendment rights. WaldenBooks, American Booksellers Association, the Council for Periodical Distributors Association, the International Periodical Distributors Association, and Duval Bibb Services launched a lawsuit against the AFA in October 1989, under the Federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) and the Florida State RICO Acts, which protect an organization's right to conduct business without harassment or threats.[27] The case was later settled by the parties without a court ruling.
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    Post by Shale Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:27 pm

    "The case was later settled by the parties without a court ruling."

    Damn. Woulda been nice to see the executives of AFA become somebody's bitch in a federal pen.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:38 pm

    Shale wrote:"The case was later settled by the parties without a court ruling."

    Damn. Woulda been nice to see the executives of AFA become somebody's bitch in a federal pen.

    True but I think it was a civil case. Although there still may have been a lot of yelling.
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    Post by CatEyes10736 Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:00 am

    Replace the word "Family" with Fascist, and you will have something much closer to the truth.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Thu Jun 30, 2011 12:06 am

    Hey Hey Hey. That's not fair to fascists!
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    Post by CatEyes10736 Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:42 pm

    Alan Smithee wrote:Hey Hey Hey. That's not fair to fascists!

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    You're probably right. lol

    All I know is that the word "family" needs to be removed from the name.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Thu Jun 30, 2011 9:01 pm

    CatEyes10736 wrote:
    Alan Smithee wrote:Hey Hey Hey. That's not fair to fascists!

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    You're probably right. lol

    All I know is that the word "family" needs to be removed from the name.

    Well...Charlie Manson had a "family".
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    Post by tmontyb Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:21 am

    CeCe wrote:
    Shale wrote:I think they're a hate group.

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