Building a Mosque @ Ground Zero

“Ground zero is, indeed, hallowed ground,” Obama
said at a White House dinner celebrating the Muslim holiday of Ramadan.
“But let me be clear: As a citizen and as president, I believe that
Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else
in this country. That includes the right to build a place of worship
and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in
accordance with local laws and ordinances.”

Forgiveness_Man wrote:Legally they have a right but it's darn insensative and disrespectful to do it. If it were a white suprememisist group(we'll hypothetically say they aren't violent) building a base where violent hate crimes against African Americans went on, there would be widespread public outrage, and rightfully so. But Muslims do it, it's okay.

Obama is an idiot. We know they have a legal right.(The guy suddenly remembers we have a constitution?) It's not the right that's in question; it's the ethics of it. Just because you have a right to do something doesn't mean it's right to do it.

Side note: I am liking the idea of somebody to build a gay bar next to the mosque.

Nystyle709 wrote:You're a fucking idiot, I swear. Do you even realize how STUPID you sound sometimes? Seriously. How does having 'the right to do something doesn't mean it's right to do it'? If you have the right to do something, you can do anything you want. And in THIS case, it IS right to do want they want. Why is it insensitive to build a mosque because some ignorant person thinks all Muslims and anybody who pratices the Islamic faith are terrorists? Why should they have to cater to anyone's sensitivity because you're stupid? Muslims lost their lives in 9/11 too. Muslims families lost thier loved ones in 9/11 too. Muslims are American citizens too. They people who ran the planes into the towers don't speak for ALL Muslims. Slave oppressors were Christian. Civil rights opponents were Christian. Would you mind someone labeling you as a racist and evil because of what your ancestors have done? Now if you are....you can scratch that. Do you think Catholic priests like being labeled as child molesters?

Forgiveness_Man wrote:
More petty insults. And you say I sound stupid? If what I say pisses you off so damn much, how about you don't read my posts and save us both a little time?

I am not saying we should label them as anything. Your entire post veers into unrelated drivel. There's not even a valid point on the issue to reply to, so I guess we're done. Have a nice day.

Forgiveness_Man wrote:^^^^
That sent you off? That's what you think. Sorry, but I'm not the stupid one here.

My logic stands. You didn't say a damn thing to contradict it, much less debunk it. It's a tasteless and mean-spirited thing to build a mosque at ground zero. That doesn't mean there are not good muslims at all. You didn't say a damn thing to refute my point. You never do. You always just lose your temper, stamp your feet, and insult me and act like you proved a point. They have a right to build there, but it is unwise and mean-spirited to specifically choose THIS location of all the locations. We can't mandate that they don't build it there but they shouldn't be doing it in the first place. You can't debunk that because it's a view and you can only say that you disagree. Now grow up and stop throwing a fit whenever somebody says something you don't like.

Nystyle709 wrote:Refute what I said then. Why CAN'T they build it there?Once again, you decided to go off on a mindless tirade and accuse me of insulting you. Which is all you do when you see how much crap that you spit gets pointed out at you. Can't stand to be wrong huh? And I'm the one who gets upset? LMAO. All that babbling and you STILL haven't refuted one thing I said. But I know the reason why. YOU FUCKING CAN'T!!!!!!!!! How's that for throwing a fit? LOL, lame.

CatEyes10736 wrote:Opposition to it is bigotry, plain and simple. When Christian Timothy McVeigh bombed the Federal building, was there an anti-Church movement; when Christians in the name of life bomb clinics and people die inside them or kill abortion doctors, are Churches questioned are subject to zone restrictions and the like? Those churches the attackers attended are they even approached? Has anyone ever considered the two factors. The Imam is a consultant for the FBI and has been since 2003, the NY office of the FBI is blocks away - ever wonder if they is an intelligence need for the close proximity to one another; or did it ever occur to any of you anti-Mosque supporters that the building of the Mosque demonstrates to the second largest religion on the planet that we are stronger, more united and of sound character than Al Qedea expected. This just gives the enemy what they want to see: discrimination against Muslims - all Muslims.

RedBedroom wrote:The majority of American Muslims did not advocate the attacks that awful day.

Chris wrote:They have a right to build there. I can understand why some would deem it classless and see it as offensive, and I don't totally disagree, but I support their right to purchase the land and erect whatever they choose, so long as it's legal and meets the standards of local ordinances. Just as it is the right of every contractor to oppose working for them in building this. Let's take this whole freedom thing all the way, shall we?

It's not about vilifying all Muslims at all or taking it out on them.

RedBedroom wrote:

Another issue we will have to agree to disagree on. I don't see how major objection is anything but vilifying, hence punishing, all Muslims.

RiteDiva wrote:Since I lost someone very close to me on that deadly day, I feel I have a right to speak on this topic. The opposers are funny as hell. The Muslims bought the property; if you people have a beef, take it up with the people that sold it to them. They're the ones who had the power to stop the building of anything Muslim. I don't blame "Muslims" for 9/11; I blame those sick holier than thou freaks who think they are God's gift to the world we all just happen to live in. Since this is America and their American money purchased property, build whatever you want as long as its lawful. Who the heck am I to tell you what to do with your property...