Forgiveness_Man wrote:^^^^Consider Matthew 22:39, where Christ says that you must love your neighbor as yourself. If loving yourself means that you could kill yourself, then it would follow that you could do the same to your neighbor, and clearly that is condemned.
Sorry but this line of reasoning requires WAY too much extrapolation, misintepretation of scripture and circular logic to work. If suicide was a "sin", it would surely be stated clearly in the bible (probably under one of the commandments). It's not! You are drawing a conclusion about suicide form a scripture that isn't referring to suicide at all. "Love thy neighbor as thyself" implies that you would want to treat your neighbor as you would want to be treated. It's the golden rule! You cannot murder yourself because suicide is not murder (unless you can demonstrate biblically that it is). At best this scripture could be twisted to refer to euthanasia only, and for the record, I don't consider euthanasia to be murder either because it is done to relieve suffering! If you relieve the suffering of someone else (at their request) you have not murdered them and you have in fact obeyed the commandment given in Matthew 22:39.
Forgiveness_Man wrote:Thou Shall Not Kill is also the common sense application. Killing yourself is not somehow excluded. You may be able to justify killing an enemy in war or somebody threatening your own life, but there is no such justification existing for suicide.
For the record, the actual commandment correctly translated is "you shall not murder", NOT "thou shalt not kill". The KJV is the only translation that renders it that way. Unfortunately, such a commandment would make no sense considering God later commands us to kill. Killing your enemies under combat is not murder therefore it is not sin. By the same argument killing yourself is not murder. Murder (unjustly killing someone else) is always a sin which is why it is specifically a commandment.
Forgiveness_Man wrote:Care to give me a Biblical justification for it? Wanting to die is not a justification. If somebody wants to be murdered, killing them is no less murder.
I don't have to give a biblical justification to prove that suicide is not murder. You do! You are the one who says it's a sin, therefore the burden of proof is on you. Nobody wants to be "murdered" but some people want to die. You keep confusing the terms murder and killing. They are two different things. Murder always involves killing but not every killing is a murder.
Forgiveness_Man wrote:(1 Corinthians 6:19-20) Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Honoring God with your body does not mean killing yourself. I think that is pretty clear. Self abuse is wrong, especially when it's intent is death. I don't see how one can square honoring God with their body with suicide.
Sorry but I already addressed a similar scripture in my original post. You fail on this logic because you have incorrectly intepreted this scripture. 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 refers specifically to sexual immorality, not suicide. This is made clear if you actually read the entire scripture. You cannot take a scripture out of context and apply it to something else simply to justify your opinion.
Forgiveness_Man wrote:If you want to reason that suicide is okay Biblically, one could easily reason that ANY murder is biblically okay.
No they can't. The reason being, suicide is NOT murder. They are two different things. Only if suicide was defined as murder could your example work. And the only way you can do that is to use circular logic by incorrectly intepreting scripture. Until you can find a scripture that specifically says that suicide is "a sin", or equal to "murder", you cannot justify your position biblically.
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