Kids at nude beaches

captainbryce wrote: ... I for one don't know of any "nude beaches" in the United States. Maybe they exist, but I've never heard of one. ...

captainbryce wrote: ...The only place I've ever seen nude beaches before were in Spain (and I've heard they exist in other parts of Europe too). That being said, if we were in Europe where the culture embraced nudity and it was not considered taboo,...

Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^Well, "unsupervised" is likely a bad term; I apologize. It's more like unsupervised by YOU, their parent. Most beaches that have high numbers of people have more than enough lifeguards with proper training to help them out of a dangerous situation. (Now I don't know if you also have that training cause I don't know you. But assuming that a parent doesn't have the training a lifeguard would, they'd be pretty much useless should their child come into a dangerous situation in the ocean, in which case the presence of several trained lifeguards is ample supervision for their safety.)

2xy wrote:

Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^Well, "unsupervised" is likely a bad term; I apologize. It's more like unsupervised by YOU, their parent. Most beaches that have high numbers of people have more than enough lifeguards with proper training to help them out of a dangerous situation. (Now I don't know if you also have that training cause I don't know you. But assuming that a parent doesn't have the training a lifeguard would, they'd be pretty much useless should their child come into a dangerous situation in the ocean, in which case the presence of several trained lifeguards is ample supervision for their safety.)

Would you let a 5yo swim at a beach without a supervising adult, even if there was a lifeguard? Why or why not?

FWIW, I would have no issues with allowing my kids to go to a nude beach if they had wanted to. And naked pictures of children, in general, don't bother me. Yes, I know some people do icky things with naked pictures of children. Some people also do icky things with animals, but that doesn't prevent me from owning a cat.

Forgiveness Man wrote:

2xy wrote:

Would you let a 5yo swim at a beach without a supervising adult, even if there was a lifeguard? Why or why not?

FWIW, I would have no issues with allowing my kids to go to a nude beach if they had wanted to. And naked pictures of children, in general, don't bother me. Yes, I know some people do icky things with naked pictures of children. Some people also do icky things with animals, but that doesn't prevent me from owning a cat.

I wouldn't, but I wouldn't let them go to the mall alone either. (The "different levels of supervision" thing wouldn't apply to me. It ALL requires my supervision.) I'd be the parent who wouldn't let their kid go places alone, so I'd be excluded from my own question. You said you'd let them go to the mall alone, but not to a beach because it'd require supervision. Yet should they encounter an emergency in the ocean, you'd likely be useless unless you have training for such a situation. (Which you may have, as I said, I don't know you.) Thus your "supervision" really is kind of just for personal reasons rather than a necessity for safety. But no, I wouldn't let my 5 yo outta the house without supervision, so again, I'd be one of the parents that wouldn't let them go anywhere without supervision, thus I'd be excluded from my own question.

So you'd let them appear nude in pictures? Good to know. I give you kudos for consistency.

Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^^And what do you think is so funny?

Forgiveness Man wrote:^^^^^Oh! Yeah, it was kinda meant to be a bit serious and a bit comical!

To add to my comments to 2xy, I'll borrow some words from thepossiblepolice. In a perfect world, I'd definitely agree. I would.

Forgiveness Man wrote:I wouldn't, but I wouldn't let them go to the mall alone either. (The "different levels of supervision" thing wouldn't apply to me. It ALL requires my supervision.) I'd be the parent who wouldn't let their kid go places alone, so I'd be excluded from my own question. You said you'd let them go to the mall alone, but not to a beach because it'd require supervision. Yet should they encounter an emergency in the ocean, you'd likely be useless unless you have training for such a situation. (Which you may have, as I said, I don't know you.) Thus your "supervision" really is kind of just for personal reasons rather than a necessity for safety. But no, I wouldn't let my 5 yo outta the house without supervision, so again, I'd be one of the parents that wouldn't let them go anywhere without supervision, thus I'd be excluded from my own question.

Forgiveness Man wrote:So you'd LET them go if they wanted to, what about appearing in pictures nude? If they wanted to do that, would that be okay? (Again, I understand that they probably wouldn't WANT to do it. It's a hypothetical about what you'd allow so what they WANT in REALITY, isn't really relevant to the question.) There's nothing wrong with it. So it must be all good!

2xy wrote:I did not say I would let a 5yo go to the mall alone. You are mixing posts together in order to build a false case with which to argue against. You said that parents are unnecessary at beaches because lifeguards are there to supervise. If that's the case, then why wouldn't you allow a 5yo to go to the beach alone?

I was an EMT at one time, and in the Navy, so I do have certain skills regarding water rescue, but that is beside the point. A parent or supervising adult, IMO, should be with children near bodies of water in order to prevent emergency situations from occurring. Lifeguards are not babysitters.

Forgiveness Man wrote:@ Captain: (You know if you chatted with me as quickly as you debate, you could've discovered so many more interesting things about who I really am than you have in my mock debate mask. )

Of course there's a distinction for pornography. I fully understand. And I agree; you CAN tell. Although I'll refrain from my comment for the sake of keeping the peace!

captainbryce wrote:

Forgiveness Man wrote:@ Captain: (You know if you chatted with me as quickly as you debate, you could've discovered so many more interesting things about who I really am than you have in my mock debate mask. )

Of course there's a distinction for pornography. I fully understand. And I agree; you CAN tell. Although I'll refrain from my comment for the sake of keeping the peace!

I'm confused. Does that mean you agree with me or disagree with me?