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    Do you support President Obama for re-election?

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    Post by TPP Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:23 pm

    I don't really think that he's a socialist...It doesn't matter anyway, imo. Politics are so partisan that nothing can get done but watered down versions of the politician's original ideas...if that. He could be a communist, imo, and it wouldn't make a difference. I kind of feel like he's the mascot for our country, the way Tiger Woods was for Nike or something. He has to do what the corporations want or they'll drop him.
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    Post by femme fatale Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:52 am

    Obama's Approval Rating up to 55%

    Fifty-five percent of people questioned in the poll say they approve of
    how Obama's handling his duties in the White House, with 44 percent
    saying they disapprove.
    "The 55 percent figure is seven points higher than in December and 13
    points higher than his September mark," says CNN Polling Director
    Keating Holland. "The president's approval rating has not been this
    high since November of 2009 in CNN polling."
    Not surprising, Democrats overwhelming approve of the job Obama's
    doing, with Republicans disapproving. Fifty-four percent of independent
    voters questioned give a thumbs up to how the president's handling his
    duties.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...50-on-economy/
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    Post by femme fatale Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:06 am

    Al Sharpton vs. Rick Santorum on OBAMA

    Former Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum has already faced a hail of criticism for his bizarre statements about President Obama, race and abortion. But now he’s incurred the wrath of the one dude you don’t want barking up your tree: activist Rev. Al Sharpton.

    A quick rewind before we get to the verbal main event: potential 2012 Republican presidential candidate Santorum recently said in an interview with CNS News that, because of his race, Obama’s stance on abortion rights is “almost remarkable for a black man.”

    Santorum argued that because he is black, Obama should be able to say definitively that the life of unborn children is protected under the Constitution.

    “The question is -- and this is what Barack Obama didn't want to answer -- is that human life a person under the Constitution? And Barack Obama says ‘no,’” Santorum said in the interview. “Well if that person -- human life is not a person -- then I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say, ‘we're going to decide who are people and who are not people.’”

    As you might imagine, the comment didn’t sit well with Sharpton, who lashed back at Santorum during a tense appearance with the former senator on Fox News’ “Hannity” show on Monday night.

    “My comment was that [Obama] should be sensitive, more so than probably most people, as a civil rights and constitutional lawyer… to how we define people in the Constitution,” Santorum reiterated, not backing down from his original comment.

    “You did not say that President Obama as a constitutional lawyer or a civil rights lawyer should be sensitive. You said as a black, which brought race in,” Sharpton hit back.

    Santorum appeared to be suggesting that Obama should be vehemently anti-abortion because before emancipation African-Americans were denied personhood, in much the same way Santorum argues that fetuses are denied their humanity.

    Politico noted that not only has Santorum not backed down from his comments, he’s actually doubled-down and used the controversy in a fund-raising appeal and written an op-ed that ran in the conservative National Review on Monday that declared life a “civil right.”

    While Hannity had Santorum’s back, Sharpton ripped into the senator for inappropriately using the slavery argument, saying that blacks were considered less than full people regardless of what state of biological development they’d reached.

    “Blacks were not considered three-fifths of a human being because there was a debate about their humanity,” Sharpton said. “Because if they were 80 years old or a fetus, they were considered less than human. … They didn’t say blacks that hadn’t started a heartbeat yet or blacks that didn’t have lungs yet, any black at any age at any state.”

    But, Santorum replied, the high abortion rate in the black community does make it a civil rights issue.

    “You look at the child in the womb, and you say there’s a debate of whether that’s a human life,” Santorum said. “Rev. Sharpton, there is no debate. That entity at the moment of conception is alive and it is genetically human … The person who’s most robbed of their civil right is that child in the womb.”

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    Post by Alan Smithee Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:46 am

    I think Santorum is a jackass and Sharpton is on solid ground with this issue but he's still a hypocrite. Two words. Tawana Brawley.
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    Post by Shale Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:28 am

    alan smithee wrote:I think Santorum is a jackass and Sharpton is on solid ground with this issue but he's still a hypocrite. Two words. Tawana Brawley.
    Agreed. I have seen Sharpton when he spoke on AIDS issues here in Miami. He doesn't always stick to the facts.

    As for Santorum - check out Dan Savage's opinion of "santorum." For those who don't follow this very astute advice columnist, when Santorum was being a vile anti-gay senator, Savage readers made the word "santorum" synonymous to that frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that shows up after anal sex. It worked and for a sizable number of ppl every time you hear santorum that is the image that comes to mind.
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    Post by tmontyb Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:59 am

    alan smithee wrote:I think Santorum is a jackass and Sharpton is on solid ground with this issue but he's still a hypocrite. Two words. Tawana Brawley.

    Tawana Brawley was almost 25 years ago. That's old news and Sharpton has made up and moved on from that. As for Santorum, well.....what can you say?
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    Post by Chris Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:13 pm

    Santorum had no business making that comment, but I would have *much* rather Obama himself issue a response to his remark than have Sharpton do it instead. Because so many people like to immediately side against something AS says or does, RS's silly comment winds up inadvertently dismissed (or defended) just to spite him.
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    Post by Alan Smithee Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:54 pm

    tmontyb wrote:
    alan smithee wrote:I think Santorum is a jackass and Sharpton is on solid ground with this issue but he's still a hypocrite. Two words. Tawana Brawley.

    Tawana Brawley was almost 25 years ago. That's old news and Sharpton has made up and moved on from that. As for Santorum, well.....what can you say?

    It is old news. That's the point. As far as I've been able to find, he hasn't made up. He's never apologized to the men he helped to defame (it cost him a couple of hundred K). He still only sees what he did as "standing up for a young lady." Bullshit. Maybe at the beginning of the case, but after it became clear that the allegations were false, he should have backed off and apologized.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Wed Jan 26, 2011 6:12 pm

    I don't think Santorum's comment is out of line at all. I think it's just a comment that forces people to see the hypocrisy in their own ideas. Sharpton is a loudmouth anyway. And I think I'd be more afraid for Sharpton than for Santorum. Sharpton is becoming a joke and I wouldn't want to be in his position right now.
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    Post by Impact Thu Jan 27, 2011 1:24 am

    Santorum makes idiotic statements to put himself out there on the fringes. He apparently wants to be in the limelight in the light of the fact that he has presidential aspirations. He wants to be recognized and that's the way he feels he can. He's a nobody and stands no chance of winning the republican nomination. Sharpton, on the other hand, will pounce on anyone who makes a potential controversial statement and will play the race card at every opportunity. Both the right and left fringes should stop this nonsense. Fat chance of that!!.
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    Post by CeCe Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:18 pm

    Impact wrote:Santorum makes idiotic statements to put himself out there on the fringes. He apparently wants to be in the limelight in the light of the fact that he has presidential aspirations. He wants to be recognized and that's the way he feels he can. He's a nobody and stands no chance of winning the republican nomination. Sharpton, on the other hand, will pounce on anyone who makes a potential controversial statement and will play the race card at every opportunity. Both the right and left fringes should stop this nonsense. Fat chance of that!!.

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    Post by Jason B. Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:56 pm

    Even if they were not in the white house


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    (AP/Huffington Post) Facebook, and that's the way she likes it.
    The first lady says her girls, Sasha, 9, and Malia, 12, have certain
    restrictions that other children don't have because of Secret Service
    security issues. But she also said during an interview on NBC's "Today
    Show" on Wednesday that she's "not a big fan of young kids having
    Facebook."
    Even if the girls weren't living in the White House, Mrs. Obama says
    Facebook is "not something they need." Maybe when they get older, she
    added.
    "It depends on when we leave and how old they are," Mrs. Obama replied
    to a question asking whether the girls would join the social netorking
    site after the Obamas left the White House.

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    Post by Nystyle709 Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:32 pm

    Good. What does a 9 and 12 yr old need with Facebook? Hell, most adults don't even need them.....with the way these idiots are losing their jobs and relationships over some bullshit on Facebook.
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    Post by RobbieFTW Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:36 pm

    I think Facebook requires members to be at least 13 years old anyway. But yes for security issues it wouldn't be wise for them to have any kind of social network profile while their dad is president.
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    Post by Supernova Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:53 pm

    Nystyle709 wrote:Good. What does a 9 and 12 yr old need with Facebook? Hell, most adults don't even need them.....with the way these idiots are losing their jobs and relationships over some bullshit on Facebook.


    Agreed, I avoid it at all costs and it hasn't done me any harm.
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    Post by Chris Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:57 pm

    Even though it may be futile to try and mandate it, I think Facebook (MySpace, Twitter, Formspring, etc., etc.) should up the age limit to sixteen.
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    Post by TSJFan4Ever Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:39 am

    I think that's very smart of her!
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    Post by Supernova Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:58 am

    And she's about the only one who could really pull it off too.
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    Post by Impact Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:42 am

    I wouldn't let my daughter (who is the same age as her youngest) have a Facebook profile either. What's she gonna do with it? A kid who hasn't entered high school yet shouldn't be on Facebook.
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    Post by MandyPerfumeGirl Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:33 pm

    Children that young don't need Facebook, so good for Mrs. Obama. I'm a full grown adult and I've never been a member of Facebook. What is the point? To reconnect with a bunch of people I never liked in the first place? The whole idea seems stupid to me. And to think they made a movie about that stupid thing eye roll
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    Post by RedBedroom Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:32 pm

    It is a great idea for her to not let the girls have a page. One emotional status update will be news even after the leave the White House.
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    Post by Jill Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:50 pm

    President Obama formally announced his re-election campaign today.

    http://www.barackobama.com/?source=BOFB

    I signed on to his campaign very early last time (summer of 2007!) and I'm on board from the start this time, as well. Among the many reasons I thought he would be an outstanding president when I supported him in 2007/2008, is his history of working "across the aisle" to accomplish some major legislation.

    Groundbreaking Illinois Death Penalty legislation
    The Obama-Lugar Nuclear Non-Proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act of 2006
    The Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act that created USAspending.gov

    A much more comprehensive list can be found here.

    There are 2 things I didn't count on:

    1.) The bile-filled, downright hateful lies the Republicans in Congress would fight him with. Not even one ounce of willingness to work with him on anything.
    2.) My own degree of disappointment on the issues he did compromise on (extending the Bush tax cuts to the wealthy, for one, taking the Public Option off the table in the Health Care Reform legislation for another).

    But in spite of #1, President Obama and the Democratic Congress accomplished an amazing amount of serious legislation, even though the media only focuses on a few of the "hot button" ones. I made a pretty long list here. And that's not even everything!

    And in spite of #2, there is no question but that we would be far worse off under a President McCain and Vice-President Palin, so I grudgingly accept that some degree of disappointment was inevitable, but nowhere near the degree of anger and disgust I'd be feeling if he weren't our President.

    So I am firmly behind his re-election and will be campaigning for him as much as possible.

    Where do you stand? Will you be supporting President Obama for re-election? Why or why not?
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    Post by Supernova Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:08 pm

    I didn't vote for him last time and I'm not voting for him this time. Since he got into office, what has he done right? Has he brought the troops home like he said he would? No, in fact we're now so far spread out, we can't extend anymore help where it's needed. Did he keep unemployment from dropping past 8%? No, it went down to 10%. Two years ago he announced plans to extend the school days to 7 P.M. and weekends, now that one has not gone into effect yet, but he's never going to personally know how well it works because his daughters are in private school so once again his great idea would in no way affect him short of how people vote for him in the next election.
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    Post by Forgiveness Man Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:38 pm

    What reason has he given me to support him again? (And seriously, blaming the Republicans in congress for his failures? He had 2 years of pretty darn strong Democratic control. President Passthebuck strikes again! FORGIVENESS MAN) He hasn't given me any reason. There is absolutely no reason for me TO vote for him. So why should I?
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    Post by Nystyle709 Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:41 pm

    Yes, I will absolutely vote for him again. His made some mis-steps during his first two years......but he's learning. I will NEVER, EVER vote to put a Republican in the Oval Office. It's unhealthy for me.

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