The 'Barack Obama' Discussion Thread [merged]

Forgiveness Man wrote:

What reason has he given me to support him again? (And seriously, blaming the Republicans in congress for his failures? He had 2 years of pretty darn strong Democratic control. President Passthebuck strikes again! ) He hasn't given me any reason. There is absolutely no reason for me TO vote for him. So why should I?

The Republicans in Congress weren't the problem, the Republicans in the Senate were, with their constant threats of filibusters, it was nearly impossible to get anything through BOTH houses without some degree of compromise.

I linked to this list, but I may as well post it here, since you asked what reasons he's given you to support him. Here you go:

1. January 29, 2009: Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act
2. February 4, 2009: Children’s Health Insurance Reauthorization Act
3. February 17, 2009: American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
4. March 30, 2009: Omnibus Public Lands Management Act of 2009
5. April 21, 2009: Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act
6. May 20, 2009: Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act
7. May 20, 2009: Helping Families Save Their Homes Act of 2009
8. May 22, 2009: Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility, and Disclosure Act of 2009
9. May 22, 2009: Weapon Systems Acquisition Reform Act of 2009
10. June 22, 2009: Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act
11. June 30, 2009: Veterans' Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2009
12. August 6, 2009: Cash For Clunkers Extension Act
13. October 15, 2009: Enhanced Partnership with Pakistan Act of 2009
14. October 19, 2009: Foreign Evidence Request Efficiency Act of 2009
15. October 22, 2009: Veterans Health Care Budget Reform and Transparency Act
16. October 28, 2009: Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act
17. October 30, 2009: Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act
18. November 6, 2009: Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009
19. November 11, 2009: Military Spouses Residency Relief Act
20. December 15, 2009: No Social Security Benefits for Prisoners Act of 2009
21. December 22, 2009: Human Rights Enforcement Act of 2009
22. January 27, 2010: Emergency Aid to American Survivors of Haiti Earthquake Act
23. February 16, 2010: Nuclear Forensics and Attribution Act
24. February 27, 2010: Social Security Disability Applicants' Access to Professional Representation Act of 2010
25. March 4, 2010: Travel Promotion Act
26. March 18, 2010: Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act (HIRE Act)
27. March 18, 2010: Statutory Pay-As-You-Go Act of 2009 (Division B) Reestablished "pay-as-you-go"
28. March 23, 2010: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
29. March 30, 2010: Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010
30. March 31, 2010: Prevent All Cigarette Trafficking Act of 2009
31. April 7, 2010 Prevent Deceptive Census Look Alike Mailings Act
32. May 5, 2010: Caregivers and Veterans Omnibus Health Services Act of 2010
33. May 17, 2010: Daniel Pearl Freedom of the Press Act
34. May 24, 2010: Lord's Resistance Army Disarmament and Northern Uganda Recovery Act of 2009
35. May 27, 2010: Federal Judiciary Administrative Improvements Act of 2010
36. June 9, 2010: Special Agent Samuel Hicks Families of Fallen Heroes Act
37. June 25, 2010: Preservation of Access to Care for Medicare Beneficiaries and Pension Relief Act of 2010
38. July 1, 2010: Comprehensive Iran Sanctions, Accountability, and Divestment Act of 2010
39. July 2, 2010: Homebuyer Assistance and Improvement Act of 2010
40. July 7, 2010: Formaldehyde Standards for Composite Wood Products Act
41. July 21, 2010: Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act
42. July 22, 2010: Improper Payments Elimination and Recovery Act of 2010
43. July 27, 2010: Cruise Vessel Security and Safety Act of 2010
44. August 3, 2010: Fair Sentencing Act of 2010
45. August 10, 2010: SPEECH Act of 2010
46. August 10, 2010: Cell Phone Contraband Act of 2010
47. August 11, 2010: United States Manufacturing Enhancement Act of 2010
48. September 27, 2010: Mandatory Price Reporting Act of 2010
49. September 27, 2010: Small Business Jobs and Credit Act of 2010
50. September 30, 2010: First Responder Anti-Terrorism Training Resources Act
51. September 30, 2010: Veterans' Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2010
52. October 7, 2010: Reducing Over-Classification Act
53. October 7, 2010: Twenty-First Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act of 2010
54. October 8, 2010: Stem Cell Therapeutic and Research Reauthorization Act of 2010
55. October 7, 2010: Security Cooperation Act of 2010
56. October 12, 2010: Redundancy Elimination and Enhanced Performance for Preparedness Grants Act
57. October 12, 2010: Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act Improvements Act of 2010
58. October 12, 2010: Secure and Responsible Drug Disposal Act of 2010
59. October 13, 2010: Plain Writing Act of 2010
60. October 13, 2010: Veterans' Benefits Act of 2010
61. October 15, 2010: United States Secret Service Uniformed Division Modernization Act of 2010
62. October 30, 2010: International Adoption Simplification Act
63. December 9, 2010: Telework Enhancement Act of 2010
64. December 9, 2010: Animal Crush Video Prohibition Act of 2010
65. December 13, 2010: Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010
66. December 14, 2010: Asian Carp Prevention and Control Act
67. December 15, 2010: CALM Act*
68. December 17, 2010: Tax Relief, Unemployment Insurance Reauthorization, and Job Creation Act of 2010
69. December 18, 2010: Truth in Fur Labeling Act of 2010
70. December 18, 2010: Social Security Number Protection Act of 2010
71. December 20, 2010: CAPTA Reauthorization Act of 2010
72. December 22, 2010: Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010
73. December 22, 2010: Regulated Investment Company Modernization Act of 2010
74. December 22, 2010: Truth in Caller ID Act of 2009
75. December 22, 2010: FOR VETS Act of 2010
76. December 22, 2010: Preserving Foreign Criminal Assets for Forfeiture Act of 2010
77. December 29, 2010: Omnibus Trade Act of 2010
78. December 29, 2010 Helping Heroes Keep Their Homes Act of 2010
79. January 4, 2011: Predisaster Hazard Mitigation Act of 2010
80. January 4, 2011: GPRA Modernization Act of 2010
81. January 4, 2011: FDA Food Safety Modernization Act
82. January 4, 2011: America COMPETES Reauthorization Act of 2010
83. January 4, 2011: Diesel Emissions Reduction Act of 2010
84. January 4, 2011: Supportive Housing for the Elderly Act of 2010
85. January 4, 2011 :Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act of 2010
86. January 4, 2011: Frank Melville Supportive Housing Investment Act of 2010
87. January 4, 2011: Anti-Border Corruption Act of 2010
88. January 4, 2011: Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Improvements Act of 2010
89. January 4, 2011: Reduction of Lead in Drinking Water Act
90. September 29, 2010: Treaty with the United Kingdom Concerning Defense Trade Cooperation
91. September 29, 2010: Treaty with Australia Concerning Defense Trade Cooperation
92. September 29, 2010: Hague Convention on International Recovery of Child Support and Family Maintenance
93. December 22, 2010: New START
94. February 23, 2011: Obama declared the Defense of Marriage act unconstitutional and will no longer be defending the cases in the 1st and 2nd circuits.

And don't forget, 4 more years within which we might be able to change the balance on the Supreme Court, so anti-American rulings like Kelo, Citizens United and now the denial of a wrongful conviction settlement to John Thompson, in spite of proof beyond all doubt (even the Supreme Court's) that 5 District Attorneys conspired to withhold exculpatory evidence that proved Johnson's innocence from his defense attorneys.

I think those are some pretty good reasons right there.

Nystyle709 wrote:

Yes, I will absolutely vote for him again. His made some mis-steps during his first two years......but he's learning. I will NEVER, EVER vote to put a Republican in the Oval Office. It's unhealthy for me.

It's unhealthy for us all, Nystyle!

Jill wrote:

Forgiveness Man wrote:

What reason has he given me to support him again? (And seriously, blaming the Republicans in congress for his failures? He had 2 years of pretty darn strong Democratic control. President Passthebuck strikes again! ) He hasn't given me any reason. There is absolutely no reason for me TO vote for him. So why should I?

The Republicans in Congress weren't the problem, the Republicans in the Senate were, with their constant threats of filibusters, it was nearly impossible to get anything through BOTH houses without some degree of compromise.

I think those are some pretty good reasons right there.

The Republicans in the Senate couldn't even filibuster for months. lol Please. Anybody but Obama is to blame. lol President Passthebuck!

I don't think they are good reasons. Obama's bills sucked. Each is a reason I won't vote for the guy. The guy is a failure.

And I think Republicans are very healthy for me. Democrats are not healthy for me or anyone I know. Gosh, the reasons not to vote for O just pile up.

I voted for him last time. Haven't been astonished by his tenure in office, but this past year he has gotten better. Right now I'm content with the way he's handling things. I don't vote Republican, so unless a worthy democrat comes along and wins me over, then I will vote for him again.

I'm definitely voting for him again. Up until the last several months or so, I think Obama has been playing it "safe" because (with this 2nd presidential race in mind) he didn't want to rattle too many cages. Now that it's time to get ready for the second race, he's finally starting to play ball so that his administration can claim they did this and that. I have a feeling his second term (and I do think that he will win one) will be more dynamic and hard hitting.

Nhaiyel wrote:
I have a feeling his second term (and I do think that he will win one) will be more dynamic and hard hitting.

From your mouth to G-d's ear.

http://www.popeater.com/2011/04/06/oprah-obama-2012/

Oprah Won't Publicly Support Obama in 2012 Election
By Rob Shuter Posted Apr 6th 2011 01:48PM



When talk show queen Oprah Winfrey announced she was publicly supporting Barack Obama for president back in 2008, she shocked many TV insiders who had always thought it best for talk show hosts to keep their political views to themselves.

Now as the 2012 election process has officially begun, sources tell me this time around Oprah's support will be much more private.

"For 2012, much has changed for Oprah. She now has own cable channel called OWN that has been struggling to find an audience -- she isn't going to do anything to alienate them," a TV insider tells me. "Unlike in 2008, when a drop in ratings didn't matter as much for the queen of TV, Oprah is now fighting every day to get people to tune into OWN."

Oprah Winfrey's daily talk show ratings dropped in 2008 after her highly publicized political rally for Barack Obama's presidential campaign. An October 2008 Gallup poll before the rallies but after Oprah's public endorsement of Obama found that Oprah's favorable ratings had fallen from 74 to 66 percent while her unfavorable ratings jumped from 17 to 26 percent. Then came news that Oprah's TV ratings showed that her daytime audience, which was nearly 9 million at its height in 2004-05, had fallen to 7.3 million.

As much as Oprah may still love President Obama and may support him behind the scenes, do not expect to see the same public support you saw in 2008. As my source puts it, "Helping a friend keep the most important job in the world is great, but making sure her OWN network thrives is now her priority."

Um... Yeah ok.

hmmm...Guess even Oprah has to sell out. Maybe she doesn't really support him anyway?

Something tells me alienating fans isn't the only motivation behind this. lol

To what degree do you think resistance to President Obama's policies are fueled by racism? Keep in mind that I'm not suggesting that everyone who is not a fan of Obeezy is a racist; however, do you think that racism (spoken or unspoken) plays a significant factor for people having a problem with his policies, and presidency overall?

Of course.

Mos def. Not all for sure but many.

To an extent

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42779923/ns/politics-white_house/

All because of Donald Trump's idiotic obsession with where the man was born. This whole thing was stupid.

Yeah, and the asshole is taking credit?

You would think this would make the right shut the fuck up but no...now they're questioning his education.

Trump Pivots From Obama’s Birth Certificate to College Grades
Says the president needs to explain how he got into Harvard.
By Josh Voorhees | Posted Wednesday, Apr. 27, 2011, at 2:22 PM EDT

Well, that didn’t take long.

Now that the White House is passing out copies of President Obama’s long-form birth certificate like they’re flyers for half-priced chicken shwarma, Donald Trump has something new atop his wish list: Obama’s college records.

After first taking credit for forcing Obama’s hand, the reality star/real-estate tycoon told reporters in New Hampshire that he won’t stop digging into Obama’s past despite the press trying to “protect” the president.

“The word is, according to what I’ve read, that he was a terrible student when he went to Occidental,” Trump said. “He then gets to Columbia; he then gets to Harvard. … How do you get into Harvard if you're not a good student? Now, maybe that’s right, or maybe it’s wrong. But I don’t know why he doesn’t release his records.”

What Trump said next, however, makes it more than a little unclear what, exactly, he thinks the release of the records would prove.

“Everyone says he was this great student. Well, if he was, that’s great, and if he wasn’t, that’s great,” he said, later adding. “If he wants to release it that’s fine, and if he doesn’t want to release it that’s fine too.”


http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/04/27/obama_s_college_grades_trump_wants_to_see_president_s_transcript.html

Pathetic. Why don't they just admit the truth?

And shouldn't Trump be releasing those tax records of his like he promised?

alan smithee wrote:Yeah, and the asshole is taking credit?

Yeah, he's a humble one. From the same link as above...

Trump may be moving on from the birth certificate issue—but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t want credit for its release.

“Today, I’m very proud of myself because I accomplished something that nobody else has been able to accomplish,” Trump said at the opening of a New Hampshire press conference. “I want to look at it, but I hope it’s true so that we can get on to much more important matters; so the press can stop asking me questions.”

like this egotistical idiot isn't basking in the attention. He's a big boy & a rich one at that. If he didn't want the attention he could just get out from in front of the cameras. Most of the country would thank him.

It FINALLY hit me as to why people were questioning his citizenship. Like, I seriously just had an epiphany. These motherfuckers don't know that Hawaii is an actual state! That's it's ACTUALLY a part of the US! Explains a lot. Perhaps a geography lesson is needed. Furthermore, a citizenship lesson is needed as well. Obama's mother was a naturally born US citizen. That makes Barack a citizen too, regardless of where he was born. Period.

I think it goes even deeper than that. The claim was that he was born in Kenya. Some of them even tried to allege that the newspaper announcement when he was born was some kind of conspiracy by his grandparents. They were throwing out everything they could & hoping something would stick. They were looking crazier everyday. Then they believed Trump would give it some kind of credibility.

HuffPo put up a hilarious version of the BC. I'm gonna go look for it & see if I can link it.

Ahhhh here it is.






http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/27/birthers-still-have-quest_n_854591.html

Nystyle709 wrote: Obama would not be President if he wasn't an American citizen. You think Hilary would've let that happen?

Yep, if Hillary couldn't find "proof" (& goodness knows she tried prior to the election lol), that's because it doesn't exist. The racism in this is an embarrassment to the entire country. They got the damn "long form" they've whined about and now the move is toward his education & admission to Harvard. Unreal.